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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
shagginwagon83 wrote:
there are different ones for each side? i used mercedes style both same


Not sure of the year or model breaks but left handed threads were used so that any "loose" nuts tightened themselves instead of spinning off.

Dave

^^^ For this purpose, is it fair to assume the right side nut would have been left hand thread,
or the other way around...??? Just trying to get what I need for the Vanagon... Evil or Very Mad

(Now I think I'M going nuts)... Rolling Eyes Wink

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EDIT: Comparing pics, looks like left side nut is left hand thread but will verify with a human...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

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(Now I think I'M going nuts)... Rolling Eyes Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

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dhaavers wrote:
(Now I think I'M going nuts)... Rolling Eyes Wink

Welcome! Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

dhaavers wrote:
djkeev wrote:
shagginwagon83 wrote:
there are different ones for each side? i used mercedes style both same


Not sure of the year or model breaks but left handed threads were used so that any "loose" nuts tightened themselves instead of spinning off.

Dave

^^^ For this purpose, is it fair to assume the right side nut would have been left hand thread,
or the other way around...??? Just trying to get what I need for the Vanagon... Evil or Very Mad

(Now I think I'M going nuts)... Rolling Eyes Wink

- Dave

EDIT: Comparing pics, looks like left side nut is left hand thread but will verify with a human...


Look at the nut. Now look at the wheel hub turning in the forward direction. Imagine the wheel hub is trying to spin off the nut. The direction the hub turns the nut will be the tighten direction.

So, right hand side tightens clockwise, Right hand thread.

Left hand side tightens counter clockwise, or left hand thread.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

Abscate wrote:
...right hand side tightens clockwise, Right hand thread.

Left hand side tightens counter clockwise, or left hand thread...

Indeed. Takes me a minute, but I'm with you now... Cool

I've got a couple pair of Bus nuts coming off of eBay... At $10 per pair (L+R) & free shipping,
four "mixed nuts" was cheaper that anyplace I could find just 2 of the RH nuts... <shrug>

>>>>>>EDIT/POS WARNING<<<>>>DON'T BUY THESE! (see 2nd post below) <<<<<<
FWIW: https://www.ebay.com/itm/AXEL-NUT-FRONT-FITS-VOLKS...2749.l2649
>>>>>>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------<<<<<<<<<<<


I figure I'll post up the spare LHT's in the classifieds here once I verify which is which... Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

E1 wrote:
dhaavers wrote:
(Now I think I'M going nuts)... Rolling Eyes Wink

Welcome! Laughing

Full disclosure: I'm sure I've been nutty since long before my dad posted
a package label like this on the door of our childhood home [no relation]:


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Laughing Wink Cool

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PS: Don't get me started on seized nuts... Rolling Eyes Embarassed Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

>>>>>>>>>Cheap eBay bus nuts update: DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME OR $$...<<<<<<<<< Evil or Very Mad

In an effort to save 1000 words, I offer a pictorial representation of the "best" of the four I received:

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Needless to say, these are already returned & I have the MB nuts ordered instead...

Sick Rolling Eyes Embarassed

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

Just to be clear - you bought cheap ebay nuts and not Mercedes genuine nuts? We appreciate the info, but just want to be clear.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

My first order was the cheap worthless eBay nuts pictured above (also linked to a few posts above that)...^^^

I looked them over, returned them immediately and now have the MB nuts coming on separate order.

Shoulda done that the first time, but sometimes I'm a slow learner... Embarassed

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

I ordered the MB ones too. After setting my new bearings in the new hubs on my big brake install, and putting the wheels back on I have a bit more play than I'm comfortable with, so I need to snug them up a little. I didn't like the original design nuts anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

dhaavers wrote:
My first order was the cheap worthless eBay nuts pictured above (also linked to a few posts above that)...^^^

I looked them over, returned them immediately and now have the MB nuts coming on separate order.

Shoulda done that the first time, but sometimes I'm a slow learner... Embarassed

- Dave


Sounds like they just keep shipping the returned crap out time and time again hoping to find someone who will round file them verses return them. Hope people are giving negative feedback on this product, live may depend on it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

Wildthings wrote:
Sounds like they just keep shipping the returned crap out time and time again hoping to find someone who will round file them verses return them. Hope people are giving negative feedback on this product, live[s] may depend on it.

Ya think...??? My eBay feedback has been fed... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

I remember this thread, buying the nuts, taking them to Fastenal, getting the right bolts, and putting them .... somewhere. (NOT ON THE SPINDLES)

Damn, I lost my nuts again!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

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Damn, I lost my nuts again!

Ya Know, we could all just stock up, move earth, and build Westyville.

Sane people need not apply. Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

^^^ Keepin' it real, E...just keepin' it real...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

Well, I scratched around, and dug and dug, and didn't find 'em ... so, I just ordered another set. Not too worried, there are 4 front end jobs needing done in my yard, and only one is Flossie. I got to get my work space sorted out THIS SUMMER!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

dhaavers wrote:
Shoulda done that the first time, but sometimes I'm a slow learner... Embarassed

It only took me five months to understand, so thankfully I don't have your problem. Laughing

bobbyblack wrote:
Damn, I lost my nuts again!

And here I was thinking this could only happen once...

bobbyblack wrote:
I scratched around, and dug and dug, and didn't find 'em... so, I just ordered another set.

Huh.

Could be handy, but thought it illegal.

dhaavers wrote:
^^^ Keepin' it real, E...just keepin' it real...

Likewise, as detailed... Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? Reply with quote

Those have been on my list for far too long and are almost identical to the rear axle retainers on race karts (though that takes 2-5 of them).

Awesome. Where'd ya get 'em?
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