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sdebaker
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 Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:07 am Post subject: winding window regulator spring |
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The springs came out of my window regulators. I replaced them and wound them as tight as I conveniently could, but I don't think they are tight enough. They don't hold up the windows well enough. When I close the door, the windows drop a little.
I would like to get the springs around one more turn. What's the technique? |
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c21darrel
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sdebaker
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:18 am Post subject: Re: winding window regulator spring |
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Unfortunately, these have nothing to do with solving my problem, which is winding the spring tighter than I have been able to do it. |
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KGCoupe
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:20 am Post subject: Re: winding window regulator spring |
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| sdebaker wrote: |
Unfortunately, these have nothing to do with solving my problem, which is winding the spring tighter than I have been able to do it. |
Don't mind Darrel - he means well, but sometimes his spring just gets wound up much too tightly.
I think what he may have been trying to suggest is that perhaps your window difficulties are not actually due to the spring not being wound tightly enough, but rather due to a problem with the spindle in the regulator mechanism.
Admittedly I have never actually tried messing with a Karmann Ghia window regulator, but from what I can see in the photos found in those two linked threads I would guess that a spring like that can only be wound just so much.
Perhaps the slot which holds the inner tab of the spring in the old aluminum spindle ...
... has been stretched out of shape or the spindle itself may even be cracked? |
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c21darrel
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sdebaker
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:17 am Post subject: Re: winding window regulator spring |
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| KGCoupe wrote: |
| sdebaker wrote: |
Unfortunately, these have nothing to do with solving my problem, which is winding the spring tighter than I have been able to do it. |
Don't mind Darrel - he means well, but sometimes his spring just gets wound up much too tightly.
I think what he may have been trying to suggest is that perhaps your window difficulties are not actually due to the spring not being wound tightly enough, but rather due to a problem with the spindle in the regulator mechanism.
Admittedly I have never actually tried messing with a Karmann Ghia window regulator, but from what I can see in the photos found in those two linked threads I would guess that a spring like that can only be wound just so much.
Perhaps the slot which holds the inner tab of the spring in the old aluminum spindle ...
... has been stretched out of shape or the spindle itself may even be cracked? |
I don't see any reason it couldn't be wound more.
Mechanism is clean, smooth acting, and the slot in the spindle looks O.K. |
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sdebaker
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:21 am Post subject: Re: winding window regulator spring |
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| c21darrel wrote: |
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| Don't mind Darrel - he means well, but sometimes his spring just gets wound up much too tightly. |
You miss me dont you KGDarryl. :wink:
Yes.
Post up several pics of your issue. Pictures really help id the issue and the fix. |
I think a picture wouldn't provide any more, useful info. The mechanism is currently assembled inside the door, so the spring is not visible. I am waiting for an answer to my question before disassembling the door. If there is no good solution to my problem, I'll leave it as is. |
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c21darrel
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: winding window regulator spring |
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| I think a picture wouldn't provide any more, useful info. The mechanism is currently assembled inside the door, so the spring is not visible. I am waiting for an answer to my question before disassembling the door. If there is no good solution to my problem, I'll leave it as is. |
Ok, dont post a pic.  Hows that workin so far?
However, if your window drops when you close the door, something isnt working right or damaged. Ever hear the old saying "a picture tells a thousand words"? You are holding back a whole lot of info and asking for an answer. Hang on a sec while I break out my crystall ball.  Maybe ask Miss Cleo http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/26/entertainment/miss-cleo-youree-harris-obituary/index.html wait she passed 
You'll need to pull the door panel and remove the whole mech to fix it anyway.
The spring helps reduce tension on the handle while rolling up the window, im not really sure it holds it in place. You may have bad gears or the weld on the back of the springs mount broke loose (common issue) or something else that has failed. Keeping the clues from the members reduces your chances of a correct answer. If you leave it as-is, it will get worse.
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sdebaker
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: winding window regulator spring |
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| c21darrel wrote: |
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| I think a picture wouldn't provide any more, useful info. The mechanism is currently assembled inside the door, so the spring is not visible. I am waiting for an answer to my question before disassembling the door. If there is no good solution to my problem, I'll leave it as is. |
Ok, dont post a pic. :? Hows that workin so far? :?
However, if your window drops when you close the door, something isnt working right or damaged. Ever hear the old saying "a picture tells a thousand words"? You are holding back a whole lot of info and asking for an answer. Hang on a sec while I break out my crystall ball. :wink: Maybe ask Miss Cleo http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/26/entertainment/miss-cleo-youree-harris-obituary/index.html wait she passed :cry:
You'll need to pull the door panel and remove the whole mech to fix it anyway.
The spring helps reduce tension on the handle while rolling up the window, im not really sure it holds it in place. You may have bad gears or the weld on the back of the springs mount broke loose (common issue) or something else that has failed. Keeping the clues from the members reduces your chances of a correct answer. If you leave it as-is, it will get worse. |
Now, back to our regularly-scheduled program...
The question of the day is:
how can I wind the spring tighter to get more force against the pull of gravity to keep the window from dropping? |
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