rope stuffed in cylinder locking motor tight.. works?

[suicidedoordavid]

Yeah, crazy subject right? There's a rope involved I promise.
Now that I have your attention, care to chime in?

Type 1 motor that's still in the car that needs the stock crankshaft pulley removed. The problem is the pulley wheel bolt is frozen tight and I have tried various methods with no good results. Soaked both sides of the pulley wheel with PB Blaster 3 days in a row with no help there.
The method of putting the trans in gear, locking down the brakes and giving the pulley nut a hard pull isn't working. Tried heating up the bolt with propane didn't help (no acetylene available). Removed the header for more room hoping that a shallow socket/impact would get in there, but not enough room for the impact gun because of the apron. Tried shoving a rod through the holes of the pulley wheel to lodge it, but that didn't work. Actually made the pulley non usable because of that method. I'm trying to NOT remove the motor, so I'm trying every method possible.

A machinist friend recommended this method, so I bring it up for discussion. Although the instructions are for tightening a pulley bolt, the idea is the same for loosening it. The link to the actual discussion is listed below.

[vwracerdave]

Yes this is a very old school trick. It is also used to replace the valve springs while the head is still on the engine.
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[theDrew]

maybe try the starter trick?

pry bar resting against the ground or a jack stand, bump the starter and it loosens it for you....just make sure you get the pry bar positioned correctly
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[Dauz]

When I ask my Wife for a quickie, she goes out to the garage and pulls the motor out of the car. Yeah, she's a keeper.

JK.. it's really and easy task you should get used to.

[modok]

Do you have a mig welder?

[67rustavenger]

[mcmscott]

[Krochus]

I've used the rope truck before on various occasions for different vehicles and it always works

[modok]

The way I remove the bolt from most engines, in car, is I use a "manual impact wrench'. take a 6 point socket, weld on a 6-7" length of square tube, at least 1", perhaps 1 1/8, or could use some heavy c-channel.
As perpendicular as possible given space constraints. 2-4lb hammer. Dead blow works well but not soft faced. They do make such a wrench designed to be hammered on for axle nuts, could find a pic of those, same concept. Most breaker bars and wrenches are far too springy to work in this way, but if the tool is made rigid, it is easy to generate hundreds of foot pounds force with a hammer blow.

to tighten the bolt again, usually use chain vise grips on the pulley to hold it. Chain vise grips are not ideal for this, but will work ok, space the 'jaws" as wide as possible, and should hold 120 ft-lb certainly, without damaging the pulley. To use on powered metal gears or flat belt pulleys, wrap a old belt around it first.

[jason]

I like that flywheel lock. I'm suprised it hasnt been made by a chinese company.

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[earthquake]

I would pull the rockers on the side you do it to so you can make sure the valves are closed.

Casey
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[Multi69s]

Just curious, I'm getting up there in age, and don't have the greatest back. However, even if you had to pull the intakes, exhaust, and break the oil lines, it seems that time, and the chance of screwing something up are out weighed. Why don't you want to drop the engine?. With it on the ground, and using a flywheel lock, you would have many methods at your disposal.
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[suicidedoordavid]

Thanks for the advice folks. I got the pulley wheel off.

[Multi69s]

Sometimes we got to bite the bullet. I see that you have a HF jack. I made some mods to mine to make life easier. If you want to see it.let me know.
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[esde]

Make sure you're getting the rope into a cylinder as it is coming to TDC on the compression stroke, or else you might end up bending a valve.
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