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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:27 pm Post subject: 2.1L rebuild |
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Ok guys, decided to rebuild the 2.1L. I thought about a subi swap, but wanted to retain the 2.1L, plus doing it myself I figured it would not cost too much.
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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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The engine actually came out pretty easy. Didn't realize how heavy the engine was. Though it would have been lighter.
The engine had a bad lifter, but with 247000kms on the clock I figured I may as well rebuild it. |
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10248 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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Hey, I love the color of your van. Got any pictures of the whole van for effect?
So what's the plan for the engine? _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6829 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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IdahoDoug wrote: |
Hey, I love the color of your van. Got any pictures of the whole van for effect?
So what's the plan for the engine? |
Here are a few pics of "Steve Green" He is quite the looker. For the engine I'm pretty much going stock. I was trying to get the Gowesty 2.2L rebuild kit with the crank and pistons, but it was taking too long so I'm going to reuse the stockers.
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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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Here is the engine coming apart
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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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Hey guys, I got the oil pump out and have about .003" clearance on it. I think it should be ok to re-use. There seems to be two crowds where one says always replace, but then it its within specs why not reuse it? Wonder if an aftermarket one will really be any better than the factory one. Was thinking of Go Westy's high volume, but its sold out. |
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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:29 am Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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The case is split, does not look too bad inside.
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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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Inspecting the heads, I noticed they are AMC.
The VW801 tool is very handy for holding the crank.
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10248 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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Nice! Keep at it. This is one project you just want to keep muscling forward. Lots of moving parts. _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50334
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:25 am Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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If you still have the original stretch style rod 2.1L bolts you will want to replace them with 1.9L rod bolts and have the rods resized at the same time. You can get rebuilt exchange rods from Van Cafe and maybe others, which seems like an easier way to go.
A mild cam upgrade combined with the higher compression pistons as per the engines build for European sale can get you some extra HP. |
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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:43 am Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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Yep, I still had the original style stretch bolts, not good. I did some shopping around and Van Cafe had the best deal by far on a set of rebuilt rods, complete with new wrist pin bushings. The big end was machined.
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marcotheturbosteamengine Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 265
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10248 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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I just put a set of those Van Cafe rods in my engine a couple weeks ago. Seemed like very good value to me.
Doug _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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marcotheturbosteamengine Samba Member
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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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Great info,
I put in a request to join the group. Thanks |
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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:10 am Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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Engine case is all cleaned and painted.
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MayorMcCheese Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2009 Posts: 658 Location: Lancaster PA
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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You can bring the oil pump back into spec. Might be worth reusing if it fits well in the case and if the gear teeth have the proper clearance and they aren't chewed up by contaminants.
Search vw oil pump blueprinting |
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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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I have been doing some research. Thanks for the idea on blueprinting. I did order a new one (german), but not sure if I'm going to install it. I'm reading about loose aftermarket pumps and I don't want that. I have about a week and 1/2 to get this thing together so time is crunching. If the new one is tight its going in, if its loose, then I will put the factory one back in and return the new one. On the next engine rebuild I'm going to spend more time (a plan it for the winter...) |
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Can1 Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2016 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: 2.1L rebuild |
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So I inspected the heads, they looked really good. The valves were the ones that came with the AMC heads so I replaced the exhaust valves with new TRW valves and cleaned up the intake valves.
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