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jacob. Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:37 pm Post subject: South Dakota Road Trip |
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Me and my wife will be taking a "honeymoon" of sorts in our 1985 vanagon. We're planning on spending most of our time in South Dakota and the 10,000 lakes region of northern minnesota. I'm looking for some recommendations for great vanagon camping spots, preferably remote, but not necessary. We like long hikes with the dog and swimming spots. Beautiful, winding roads are a plus as well.
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15144 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:37 am Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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I haven't been out there YET. but is is in our (hopeful) plans for 2017 as well
so I have a few stars on MY MAPS.
Sage Creek campground near Badlands is established but primitive..
and appears like you could have Bison wandering about the campsites.
https://goo.gl/maps/wAJVRHgNY4z
twisty roads
Rt87 and 16A by Wind cave & Custer state parks SW of Rushmore I have bullet points on my map as well. so I don't miss them.
goto Street and or satellite view on the links below.
360* turns.
https://goo.gl/maps/PsL9hkJNmMF2
Needles EYE tunnel
https://goo.gl/maps/5fVZDSYWFHw
Tunnel Spiral Bridge
https://goo.gl/maps/EyAtKwGKJwJ2 _________________
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greebly Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2009 Posts: 966 Location: Here and now
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:51 am Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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Laura Ingalls Wilde homestead, The little house on the prairie. Signs everywhere for Wall Drugs. Some 15,000 square foot drug store that passes as a tourist attraction in South Dakota, I think they will give you free ice though if I remember correctly. Mount Rushmore and the Black Hills. And finally Sturgis, in August the Harley Davidson gathering. I went to none of these. But I was in the state during Sturgis. It was interesting in a diverse way. On Interstate 90 I saw very rich people trailoring their bikes in custom trailers, some driving $1,000,000 RVs and guys riding beat up bikes that appeared they had not washed in a week or two. I would suggest avoiding SD in the middle of August. |
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jkallo Samba Member
Joined: July 26, 2016 Posts: 208 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:01 am Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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My wife and I LOVE SD. From Chicago, it's the closest destination to get into western landscape. We have been known to drive to Rapid City for the weekend to soak up some western skies and to load up on frozen Hatch green chiles.
Anyway, stuff to see. I assume you're coming from MN, so in order (reverse it if you're coming from the west)
1. The Badlands NP is awesome of course. Don't miss it. It's going to be HOT during the day obvs, so plan around that.
2. Rapid City. If you're a brewery type, Firehouse brewing is great.
3. Devil's Tower WY is really a hop skip and jump from the other stuff in this area, and it's amazing. Consider popping over there before heading to
4. Spearfish is a great town. Crow Peak brewing is one of our favs. Good food, good place to load up before heading into the Black Hills.
5. US-14 out of Spearfish is gorgeous. And VERY winding Dave Some fantastic fly fishing in Spearfish Creek and tribs. Don't miss Bridal Veil falls. LOTS of hiking around in this area, so do some research. Our fav hike is to the top of what used to be known as Harney Peak, now Black Elk peak. Tallest point in SD. It's only 7k ft, but the lack of any competition makes it feel MUCH taller. There's an old CCC fire lookout on top that seriously looks like it belongs in the Lord of the Rings. Seriously, google it up. You finish the hike by climbing up into it. So cool. 7mi or so round trip, lots of elevation obviously.
6. Obviously since you're there, might as well see Mt. Rushmore and Crazy Horse.
7. As you're meandering back around enjoying those mountain roads, check out Moonshine Gulch Saloon in Rochford. If you hit it right, you'll catch a massive Old Time music jam. Deadwood has lots of touristy stuff surrounding the TV show and a massive pit mine. Hill City has some touristing opps too.
That should get you started. Can't overstate the opportunity for hiking all over the Black Hills. Tons of trails.
And if you stop at Crow Peak in Spearfish for a beer, raise one for me -- I miss that place.
Joe _________________ I'm Joe
The bus is Gus, the 1982 Westy Diesel 1.6na
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jkallo Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:02 am Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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greebly wrote: |
I would suggest avoiding SD in the middle of August. |
Also, as much as I love the place, I heartily second this. I have been there in August and it's not much fun. Everything is crowded, drunk, and loud. Completely opposite vibe as we go there for. _________________ I'm Joe
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jimf909 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:28 am Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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SD is a beautiful place to visit. I-90 can/should be avoided. The Black Hills, Custer State park and the Badlands are highlights. As has been said, avoid August unless if Hog culture is your thing.
You may want to check out this blog. It's written by a woman who's an RV full-timer (17' Casita trailer) and spends a bit of time working and boondocking in SD. Good info on boondocking in the grasslands, etc. Plus, she has a good travel spirit:
http://www.interstellarorchard.com/
Enjoy! _________________ - Jim
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termuehlen Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2012 Posts: 993 Location: Redwood City
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:37 am Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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Drive Needles Highway at Custer State Park. Hike up to Harney Peak. Visit Mt Rushmore for the evening show. Visit the town of Lead, it sits on the edge of a 1000 foot deep open cut mine which has always been a jarring viewing experience for me. _________________ 1988 Westfalia automatic Subaru OBD1
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84Cabby82Westy Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 49 Location: Missoula, MT
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:00 am Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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Wind Cave National Park is a nice place to visit - especially on a hot day. Has a nice quiet campground, too. If you're into history Wounded Knee is worth a stop, as is the area around the Badlands and the Pine Ridge Reservation. You can even climb into a missile silo east of Rapid City on I-90 to escape the heat.
Driving through the area a few summers ago (right after Sturgis ended), I had 2 pleasant encounters with the biker set - one was full of questions about what equipment was in my Westy and the other wanted to buy it (his bike was on a trailer behind one of those RVs that costs 5X more than my house, so it was fun to say no). |
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MV2 Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2012 Posts: 11 Location: Black Hills
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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As a 60 year resident of the Black Hills, I can tell you that yes, the roads can be winding, and no, the wind really doesn't blow that often. Lots of things to do here, and my friend from Chicago and others named several of them. Do you like to fish? Spearfish Creek in the Canyon and Rapid Creek below Pactola are outstanding trout streams. Golf? There are a bunch of really cool golf courses in the Hills - my favorite is Tomahawk on HWY. 385.
Visit the Forest Service site for campground info. There are several small, very nice campgrounds that you'll really enjoy.
One can do the tourist thing, which is fun. If you want to avoid that, stop at the local Forest Service office and ask how you get to Devil's Bathtub (off Spearfish Canyon) and the Hippy Hole (near Rockerville). As already mentioned - climb Harney Peak, which is awesome. Devil's Tower isn't far away, and is magnificent.
If it's hot, the Badlands will be baking and there's not a lot of shade. Probably not a great spot to stay, but well worth visiting.
A lot of people that live here take their vacations during the motorcycle rally. There really aren't many problems with that crowd, but there's a lot of traffic and a lot of noise for a couple of weeks.
Best time to go? I'd say September. Most of the tourists will be gone, and you'll pretty much have the place to yourself. Sorry if I sound like I'm from the Chamber of Commerce, but I've done a lot of traveling, and this is a great place to live. Good luck! |
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TKentT Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2013 Posts: 232 Location: Sevierville TN
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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I'm not a Minnesota native or current resident, but I lived there for four years quite a while back. Since you are travelling through I'd suggest you focus on Voyageurs National Park (near International Falls) and the area around Ely MN, one of the gateways into the Boundary Waters National Primitive Area. You can't camp in your van in the midst of all the lakes - the Primitive area has no roads and all motorized transport (snowmobile, boat, ATV, etc.) is prohibited. Voyageurs National Park borders the West end of the Boundary Waters and has no such restrictions. (The best vacation I've ever had was camping on a island in the middle of one of the lakes in Voyageurs. It could be hours before you'd see or hear another boat.) In a nutshell, the Boundary Waters is canoe only in the interior, and lakes around the periphery can have motorboats (used by outfitters), while Voyageurs has no such restrictions.
It is out of your way, unless you want to go up to Canada and around the Great Lakes, but my favorite area is the Gunflint Trail west of Grand Marais (almost up to Canada on the shore of Lake Superior). From the end of the Gunflint, you can actually cross over into Canada on a motorboat and explore almost another million acres of the Quetico Provincial Park - which also doesn't have motor restrictions.
Hopefully someone else will chime in with more specifics... _________________ 1952 MG TD Replica, 69 VW IRS pan, 1679cc with 40 HPMXs -- Most fun for the money out there...
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jkallo Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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TKentT wrote: |
Hopefully someone else will chime in with more specifics... |
If you're driving 90, don't count on 24 hr fuel and do stop at the SPAM museum in Austin. Seriously on both counts.
If you're going on be on the north shore, Duluth is a wonderful town, Betty's Pies in Two Harbors has the best pies on earth, and the Superior Hiking Trail (SHT) heading northeast of of Lutsen is some of the most consistently scenic trail I've ever been on. _________________ I'm Joe
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Robw_z Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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Eastern and western SD are very different worlds. There is plenty to see in SW South Dakota, but east of the Missouri you have to get creative and ready to appreciate subtle beauty. The only reason I think you may be going eastern is it is near Minnesota.
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jacob. Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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From the looks of my google searching, a lot of really great suggestions. Thanks a lot guys, and feel free to keep em' coming if you have them.
Thanks,
Jacob. _________________
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Steve M. Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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Don't know when your going, but the Solar eclipse is happening on the 21st Aug. Swing south if you can! _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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dhaavers Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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I second the SD suggestions above...Black Hills sights & camping, Wind Cave,
Badlands...all good, all worthwhile.
I also second the warning about summer in SD...here's one day of 90+ degree
heat and nearly equal humidity in July a few years back:
With the window AC on full we managed to keep the van interior temp just in the mid 70's,
but it was still miserable. FWIW, this was a city campground in Wessington Springs, SD
which at the time was free/donation and included swimming pool on site...
...great for the kids as mom was nursing a migraine for a couple days...
jkallo wrote: |
Betty's Pies in Two Harbors has the best pies on earth... |
Speaking as a local, I'd qualify that by saying that yes, Betty's has that reputation
(going back to the 1950's) but for consistently better pie these days go another
8 miles up the road to Rustic Inn in Castle Danger. Just sayin'...
Northern MN is chockablock with state and National forest lands, liberally dotted with
rustic campgrounds and recreation areas. Pick your route & Google is your friend.
If you're the smartphone type, I recently found and am starting to love the
"Ultimate US Public Campground Project" app...many hidden gems in there!
MN state park camping facilities are among the finest anywhere, although recently
changed to reservation-only for most parks in the system. Book online/call ahead...
Personal favorite roadtrip highlights, in no particular order:
- the ORIGINAL Paul Bunyan & Babe the Blue Ox statues in Bemidji
(& beautiful swimming beach right in town)
- Headwaters of the Mississippi River at Itasca State Park north of Park Rapids
(& another exceptional beach ~10 mi. south in small town of Menahga)
- Pipestone Nat'l Monument in Pipestone (of course)
- Charles Lindbergh Historic Site in Little Falls
- North Shore Scenic Drive (Duluth to Grand Portage) or just circle Lake Superior
all the way through Canada if you like...
Swimming in Lake Superior is completely optional - rarely gets above 45 degrees...
Other quirky sites too numerous to mention: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/location/mn
Bottom line: a multitude of opportunities for your interests, most you'll find to be above average...
Happy Trails!
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
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Chichy Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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I find it works pretty slick to scout Google satellite for off-grip campout spots, I have many 'starred' on my Google account but I have not yet figured out how to share the link. GPS coordinates would be easy, however.
Where do you live? Your starting point and general route plan would assist with specifics, and that I can certainly help with.
This is my first post so I will try to remember to check back
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jkallo Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:14 am Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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dhaavers wrote: |
Speaking as a local, I'd qualify that by saying that yes, Betty's has that reputation
(going back to the 1950's) but for consistently better pie these days go another
8 miles up the road to Rustic Inn in Castle Danger. Just sayin'... |
In some sort of divine intervention episode, I learned moments after I wrote that yesterday that I will be running the Superior 50 miler this September. It starts in Lutsen. Now that I have your valuable piece of advice Dave, I have a mission for this trip outside the running the 50 miles. Pie tasting! _________________ I'm Joe
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jimf909 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:35 am Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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^^^ You only get pie after 75 miles. _________________ - Jim
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MV2 Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2012 Posts: 11 Location: Black Hills
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:46 am Post subject: Re: South Dakota Road Trip |
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One last thing..... If you like to bike, the Mickelson Trail is on an old railroad grade that runs about 100 miles (North/South) through the middle of the Hills. As a much younger man, I rode the section from Englewood to Hill City, and it was very enjoyable. It's not technical at all. Just an enjoyable ride that goes over railroad bridges, through tunnels, etc.
Best bet is to arrange a shuttle so that you can ride in one direction. |
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