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electronictofu
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 Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:40 pm Post subject: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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Hi all,
I've seen a lot of older posts but nothing recent. I got my Safari window kit from Ronnie at Bustoration, they're great, it was in 2013 ish. Since then I've never been able to get the seal to hug the corner right, these were not pre-molded seals so the corners were extra CHALLENGING.
I was using the yellow level 2 weather stripping goop, I think it's 3M brand. Should I try again and use another method, or is there an alternative to use? I've let it sit with clips and little ties to hold it flush but it always gives out.
I had an extra seal from one of my popout side window frames (the seal for the body pop out window, not the frame itself) It's too short, but throwing it on there for kicks, it's smaller, but fits so well.
My bus isn't stock so I am open to any ideas.
Thanks all. Stay safe!
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electronictofu
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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Any tippy tips?  |
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Troytempest69
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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| I’ve not got safaris in my split, but in the UK a lot of people swear by Buttys Bits seals.....and you can imagine the shocking weather we get! Might be worth asking if they have suppliers where you are. |
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Troytempest69
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srfndoc
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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I run the CE seals which most people say are pretty good but they still leak. I think we really need a new type of seal made of two distinct sections with the outside section completely sealing the window edge.
This area would need to be much larger and wrap completely over the outside edge of the window frame like a static seal:
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electronictofu
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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| srfndoc wrote: |
I run the CE seals which most people say are pretty good but they still leak. I think we really need a new type of seal made of two distinct sections with the outside section completely sealing the window edge.
This area would need to be much larger and wrap completely over the outside edge of the window frame like a static seal:
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Thanks Troy I'll check out the UK company.
Yeah the area you highlighted in red, it's just not long enough to be able to hug that corner. Even on a hot day or warming up the rubber in hot water, then using the strongest adhesive possible, it would be a stressful stretch for it to hold.
Ah... well, I don't worry about leaks, I don't drive my bus in the rain, nor do we get a ton of rain. I just think it looks like poo.
I removed it all and cleaned off the adhesive, I'll probably give it another go... or just find something else and make it work.
I'll also check out CE seals. Im not familiar. Do you have a link? |
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srfndoc
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electronictofu
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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Awesome. I shot them an email, hoping they have a photo of what theirs look like. I'll probably just order a pair and give it a shot , for that price. |
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Erik G
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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| electronictofu wrote: |
Awesome. I shot them an email, hoping they have a photo of what theirs look like. I'll probably just order a pair and give it a shot , for that price. |
It's kinda like pinch welt or windlace if that makes sense. you could probably try just that as well. When I lived in Sac a few of us used these with our izzy safaris with good luck. Since it's a low profile it makes for a decent seal to the point that on one bus the guy didnt even weld or screw in the latch tabs, it was a garage bus so he just flipped the latch against the window frame and the seal. Hope it works for you, at least they are cheap and dont wrinkle up in the corners
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electronictofu
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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[quote="Erik G"][quote="electronictofu"]
I was just looking at some "Pinch welt" and "Wind Lace" style stripping on Ebay, I didn't know the names of these seal shapes, some called it plain ol' "U Shape" I like the idea of trying something like that. My latch locks work without the tabs, I've never installed them, I may, I just never did because the windows lock, and I feel my spacing was never on point due to the seals feeling so floppy and off. |
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sled
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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this is essentially what the "butty's bits" seals are like
this is what the Wolfgang seals are like
both of which are available cheap on McMaster Carr
both fit the corners very well as the internal metal holds its shape.
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srfndoc
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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McMaster link:
https://www.mcmaster.com/bulb-seals
The CE seals are similar to the butty bits.
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electronictofu
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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Wow, you can really get lost in all these options, ha. Nice website though, Ive not heard of them until now. I wish they did by the foot, it's either 10 foot or 25 feet, I think two safaris are about six and a half feet a pop, making it around 13 feet for a set. |
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ezcamper
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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One of the keys to no (or a lot less) leak is glueing in the seal to the body of the bus.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Safari Sealing and seal options |
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| One of the keys to no (or a lot less) leak is glueing in the seal to the body of the bus. |
Indeed! 
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