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70Crew Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2006 Posts: 776 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:32 am Post subject: Test needle valve? |
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I am trying to troubleshoot the source of gas in my oil. One of the potential sources, it sounds like, is a sticking needle valve allowing the carb bowl to overfill, causing fuel to pour down the manifold. What is the best (or easiest) way to check and see if the needle valve is operating correctly?
1600 SP motor, stock solex 30 Pict 3 carb rebuilt by Volksbitz. _________________ 1970 Crew Cab |
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anthax Samba Member
Joined: October 21, 2016 Posts: 283 Location: Hälsingland, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Test needle valve? |
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Take the carb of the engine, take it apart and pour liquid through it.
I piece of hose, a small funnel and a small container of water.
Fill up the hose with water, hold the needle vale shut, use mouth to try to blow the water in to the needle valve.
If water pours through, it's bad. |
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mikedjames Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2012 Posts: 2745 Location: Hamble, Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Test needle valve? |
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Depends on the needle valve design, if you can get the needle out of the valve and you can see any ring of wear on it it is suspect. This leaked in a Weber...
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Test needle valve? |
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70Crew Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2006 Posts: 776 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Test needle valve? |
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OK so I tried the water test. I don't detect any obvious leaks with the valve closed, although there's really no way with this method that I would identify really small leaks.... Maybe it is just the big leaks we are looking for? The only other think I noticed, when I close the valve and blow on it, the plunger does not readily pop out just with that pressure, I have to touch the bottom of the plunger to knock it loose and get it flowing. Since the car seems to run fine, I am assuming that is normal? Really what I am trying to eliminate is the possibility that the needle valve is sticking open or not closing all the way, so minor sticking when closed shouldn't be causing any overfill issues, right? _________________ 1970 Crew Cab |
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70Crew Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2006 Posts: 776 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:20 am Post subject: Re: Test needle valve? |
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Actually, I just got a little more scientific and don't think I have a sticky needle valve. I set my compressor to 5 psi and hooked it up to the inlet barb. That is enough pressure to open it. That much pressure also does not leak past the needle when I hold the plunger closed. _________________ 1970 Crew Cab |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26790 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Test needle valve? |
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What I used to do was hold carb upside-down, suck on it, stick tongue over barb, see if it holds suction.
When you are young you can drink gasoline, because you are invincible, of course.
(Probably would use a vac pump now) |
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