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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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MarkWard wrote: |
Just curious if you have tested one yet against a worn plate with shifting issues? |
Hi Mark!
I haven't tested the difference yet, since shifting issues can be coming from a number of factors, but I might very soon. I rebuilt a transmission a few months ago for a buddy that had a very worn plate, and shifting is being funkier everyday, so that would be the perfect case to try since all is new in his transmission
The new plate is the exact replica of the VW one _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:14 pm Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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MarkWard wrote: |
Just curious if you have tested one yet against a worn plate with shifting issues? |
I mounted one a couple days ago on a cleaned valve body, and I have to say it shifts as smooth as the other transmission I have with a NOS valve body.
The plate can also fit "FF" valve bodies, just a tiny extra hole to drill that I can do for free upon request
_________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6355 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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Aloha all!
Additional note, the plate in the FSB valve body is the same as the FFB, just one hole is slightly smaller.
I installed my new stainless steel separation plate as the hole was still covering the castings in the halves efficiently.
FSB shiny plate below a rusty old FFB plate for easy colorful comparison.
This hole
My new stainless steel separation plate for the valve body
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2186917
I went for a quick test ride, no issues so far.
I will report back after more miles in a few weeks but so far so good _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
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AtlasShrugged Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2008 Posts: 1605 Location: Decatur, Ga. USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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Super job! Brilliant
You will want to post to the Porsche 944/924 and older water-cooled VW forums too. Sadly many just tossed the old 010 automatics and converted to manual transmissions. A real pity as the 010/090 is a wonderful old school automatic. _________________ 'Let's Go Brandon' |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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Thank you, I just corrected it
As for the car forums, I'm not sure they have the similar valve bodies, I know I worded on a 003 from a late Bay Window and it was rather different.... _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
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fastcougar Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2021 Posts: 2 Location: West Virginia
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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@ALIKA T3
I've been exchanging emails after finding your vendor link. After viewing your pictures and mine, I think the FF and my "FG" (in the "TNA" tagged 010's in VW Cabriolet & A2 Golf/Jetta) are identical with 1 minor exception, the bottom right outer perimeter has 2 notches, whereas the FF has 3 notches.
The only other changes could possibly be the orifice diameters, but I wouldn't know until I get your FF plate in my hands and can compare in person. This is my only hope at fixing this transmission, so consider another one sold! If this works out, you just increased your market quite a bit and I'd consider advertising on VWVortex as well. |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:05 am Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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fastcougar wrote: |
@ALIKA T3
I've been exchanging emails after finding your vendor link. After viewing your pictures and mine, I think the FF and my "FG" (in the "TNA" tagged 010's in VW Cabriolet & A2 Golf/Jetta) are identical with 1 minor exception, the bottom right outer perimeter has 2 notches, whereas the FF has 3 notches.
The only other changes could possibly be the orifice diameters, but I wouldn't know until I get your FF plate in my hands and can compare in person. This is my only hope at fixing this transmission, so consider another one sold! If this works out, you just increased your market quite a bit and I'd consider advertising on VWVortex as well. |
Hello!
I saw your email, thank you for taking the time to share the pictures publicly to benefit the community
Indeed it does look like a FF model, but with a smaller hole in the same location as the FSB plate I recently discovered and posted about earlier.
That particular hole doesn`t seem to affect much as it is bigger on my plates than the aluminum cast chamber it covers but not too big as to overlap into the next chamber. Even the original plate has a hole bigger than the chamber.
You`re gonna have to drill that tiny hole circled in red and you`re set, at least theorically.
Make sure you don`t have sticky valves, once in place and oiled, they should slide easily without catching. They take a bit of wiggling to fit in the valve body, but that`s it.
Aloha! _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
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AtlasShrugged Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2008 Posts: 1605 Location: Decatur, Ga. USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:37 am Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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The two/three notches are to indicate the application and a change from six 6mm balls to five 6mm balls and one 3mm ball.
I have used a used Porsche 944 valve body in a 1990 VW Cabriolet and a new Porsche 924/944 valve body from Germany in my Vanagon.
The relevant service pages can be helpful: https://www.asuswebstorage.com/navigate/a/#/s/ABC780B4F7084E778CC88E4A5739FA03Y _________________ 'Let's Go Brandon' |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:56 am Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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AtlasShrugged wrote: |
The two/three notches are to indicate the application and a change from six 6mm balls to five 6mm balls and one 3mm ball.
I have used a used Porsche 944 valve body in a 1990 VW Cabriolet and a new Porsche 924/944 valve body from Germany in my Vanagon.
The relevant service pages can be helpful: https://www.asuswebstorage.com/navigate/a/#/s/ABC780B4F7084E778CC88E4A5739FA03Y |
Yes you can mount any valve body indeed, I too bought a Porsche one a few years back.
So the notches purposes are also there to tell about the balls, I never really understood that.
It's very confusing all their marks bc they only give half the info, the FF and FFB have the same balls, 5+1 for example and other different notche(s) bc of one tiny hole difference, but some notches are triangular, others square and no explanation about that :/
I guess collecting pictures will help in the long run. _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:17 am Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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Here are pics of a FNB valve body plate from an Audi 100 a guy replaced in Germany, it was a perfect match according to him but notches are different. 087 transmission RDX code.
_________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget |
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fastcougar Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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I haven't drilled the missing hole yet. In fact, I just ordered the smallest drill bit set I could find online last night, which includes the 0.7mm drill bit. However, I have done an exhaustive measurement of everything and the only variances I could find are in red, everything else is the same and should work beautifully. Not concerned with the VERY minor plate thickness. Any update on shift quality with making that hole slightly bigger (say 1mm)?
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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I wouldn't go too big on the small holes, but you will notice some holes are not the exact same diameter, it's almost mon measurable with regular tools, doesn't affect anything at all but I haven't experimented personnally with a bigger hole where you are mentioning. 1mm from 0.7mm is a big increase. Holes that small must be acting like a leak upon valves moving to avoid pressure like a syringe would do, that's my guess. _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
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[email protected] Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:36 am Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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Have you ever made these? |
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Butcher Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:10 am Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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I purchased one, I have not used it yet, but it looks really good and should work fine when I do. |
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:14 am Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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I have one in our '84. No issues, and the old part/ plate def. had wear in the usual places from the balls hitting the plate over the years. _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
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klauspeter Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: New A/T Valve Body Separation Plate: Stainless or Steel? |
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Hallo Alika ,
i would like to purchase a separation Plate for my 84 Vanagon /090 transmission
&010 FF Valve-Body.
im serching also for a 2th. break band-Piston
thank you
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
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