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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

I got my “new” junkyard doors dissembled and started/finished the rust repair on one. Turns out the blue pair of doors are 10/59 and are Indigo blue. It’s interesting because there are no major differences but many minor ones.
The top three doors in the picture below are all junk. Two are warped beyond used from me welding it before I knew you don’t want to do a 1ft bead at once Embarassed d'oh! the bare steel looked great in the Junkyard but was covered in bondo and is tin canned, warped and was an utter hack and the whole frame was bent on it. But is was super solid and straight at the bottom corner I need for repairs
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If you look, you can see the check rod is a different style on the blue door. There are also some different pieces not pictured
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here’s the rust
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Welded in. I used a smashed up but rust free door for repairs
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

Yeah, the check rod looks similar to what I have on my '61 I think.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

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Yeah, the check rod looks similar to what I have on my '61 I think.

Interesting! I wonder when they made the change

Door updates, when you find rust in one door, another door presents its rust. Wait, that’s not how the saying goes Laughing Rolling Eyes

Anyways, I realized my second door is really bad and I’m looking for another drivers side door. I will fix it if I can’t find one but I know I will warp it if I try to fix it going down the same hole.
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What was interesting is I found someone had done some lead body filler on the one door that’s rusty
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Then I started to sand the one door, pretty straight and I realized I was going to have to strip it bare. I found someone (I’m assuming) used chemical stripper, let it flash rust, used RED OXIDE PRIMER over the rusted metal and painted the car Ford tractor blue Rolling Eyes
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Good news! I stripped the paint off with the wire wheel, covered in flash rust but no major damage and they used almost no filler and there were no surprises. I have one good passenger door that’s correct for my beetle out of 6 extra doors
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

Ceckert64 wrote:

Interesting! I wonder when they made the change


I try not to use mine as a "reference" since it was owned for a long time by a VW mechanic, which means it works well and is in good condition but I don't assume anything is a good year-specific reference since those guys always had a bunch of stuff lying around from all kinds of years.

Wolfsburg West lists their check rod hardware kit as 62-79 but some other places list 61 as the start. I haven't found a specific date but haven't looked that deeply. For your 64, though, that should be a good ballpark estimate, especially now that you know the way each looks.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

BorisGrishenko wrote:
Ceckert64 wrote:

Interesting! I wonder when they made the change


I try not to use mine as a "reference" since it was owned for a long time by a VW mechanic, which means it works well and is in good condition but I don't assume anything is a good year-specific reference since those guys always had a bunch of stuff lying around from all kinds of years.

Wolfsburg West lists their check rod hardware kit as 62-79 but some other places list 61 as the start. I haven't found a specific date but haven't looked that deeply. For your 64, though, that should be a good ballpark estimate, especially now that you know the way each looks.

Thank you! They always were making slight changes through the years and it’s interesting how there are so many minute details. I’m going to leave it since it’s such a minor detail and this car isn’t going to be perfect, I doubt anyone would notice or care.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

👍👍👍

I would leave it since you cant really see the difference.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

Chickensoup wrote:
👍👍👍

I would leave it since you cant really see the difference.

I agree, and I could make it correct, but I want this project done Drool

I finished stripping the paint off the doors today and fixed some pin holes I found when cleaning it up. I might do some wet sanding later
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

I got the door finished cleaning up and got some filler on it today. I also got some filler on the fenders. I also took It for a drive and stopped at the “hippie tree” as fitting for a VW
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

Got a bit of sanding done today. Finished up on the fenders and got way on the doors but I may just be painting this weekend Very Happy Still looking for a decent drivers side door though, no luck so far Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

The image by the hippy tree is soo cool. Something about no doors... Nice!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

matthew henricks wrote:
The image by the hippy tree is soo cool. Something about no doors... Nice!

Thanks! It’s an interesting tree to look around and it even has a park bench. It’s also in the middle of nowhere.
No doors is fun, but a bit scary Laughing I actually decided to put doors on today so I fell like I can go more places and having no doors can be a bit much breeze if it’s cooler out. I also can take it to do stuff with friends. But I’m working on making it more legal and safe. I added seat belt for the passenger seats. I added an outside mirror, fuel gauge doors, passenger seat, rear seat back, and interior panels
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

I fished body working the door this weekend. It put up a fight. Kept having to add a little more bondo here and there, sand and kept going through that cycle then I got the primer on parts and sealed them.
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I also wet sanded the decklid
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And added some striped on the fender because I felt like it Laughing Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

Just a few pics
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

how about you come on down to the dirty south, and help me finish up the body work on my Blue Bug ? Wink

but for reals bro. paint looks good. i think ur gonna regret selling it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

Chickensoup wrote:
how about you come on down to the dirty south, and help me finish up the body work on my Blue Bug ? Wink

but for reals bro. paint looks good. i think ur gonna regret selling it?


That’d be fun, just a small road trip though Laughing

Thanks! The pictures are cheating a little since that is when the paint was wet but it looks close to that dry
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

Looks great!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

Long time with no update. Lots of progress done. I got the fenders and one door finished up. I also found a better steering wheel and put high build primer on the cracks
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

I’m a bit behind on updates. I got the door on and assembled
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Then I decided I’m going to try to patch the bottom of the door so I dot the patch section ready
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Then some other pictures. I’ve been driving it a lot. I’ve put 1,300 miles on it since I got the engine back together. It’s been running good for the most part. A few mechanical issues but nothing major
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That’s next to my friends 82 GMC at the fair
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

your friend wanna sell the truck Question Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: "Herbie"1964 beetle metal sunroof restoration/ replacing metal Reply with quote

Chickensoup wrote:
your friend wanna sell the truck Question Laughing

If he did I’d want it first Laughing
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