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Frank A Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:27 pm Post subject: Baja lift suggestions |
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Hello all. I just picked up a 1974 beetle (not a super). I'm thinking of making a baja bug with my son. What is the easiest way to lift it about 4-6"? Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks! |
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8689 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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The absolute easiest way to raise a beetle that much is to buy one already done.
But Thing spindles and reindex the rear is fairly easy, just won't get you that high. _________________ Brian
'69 Dune Buggy
'69 Beetle Convertible
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Frank A Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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Thanks Brian! |
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Frank A Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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Third Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2017 Posts: 116 Location: Texas Coast
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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That's going to make a clean Baja !
I love the red, too !
Red is always fastest...
(ask any LEO writing tickets)
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Third Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2017 Posts: 116 Location: Texas Coast
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67ctbug Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2016 Posts: 3619 Location: CT
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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Please don't cut that beauty.... _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'73 Dodge W200
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote: |
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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Mal evolent Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2009 Posts: 2912 Location: San Antonio, Nuevo Mexico
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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+1 on don't cut that car. find a baja bug that has already been butchered
if you go beyond 3" up you need to go wider too. if you go higher and wider, you need a cage to tie it all together. find a car that is already higher, wider and cut up, let someone else pay full price for that. sometimes "my loss" really is "your gain" _________________ 73 Beetle Baja, Ghia front brakes, Type 3 rear brakes, 2220 ( 94 X 80 ), Weber Progressive, Bosch SVDA, '97 Mustang seats
Baja Bugs for Volkswagen Virgins: Index |
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gunslingertom Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2017 Posts: 67 Location: Beautiful S.W. Missouri Ozarks
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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No way. Cut it up.
Back in 1986, I cut a hole is a 72 Formula Firebird hood (just like in the pic) to fit a tunnel ram and 2 carbs. Tin Indian fans hated my guts. That hood is fiberglass and was extremely sought after back then.
I almost cut a hole in a 70 Chevelle cowl induction hood, but a friend offered me righteous money for it, so I bought a fiberglass hood.
I'll cut up anything.
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FullFender Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2014 Posts: 647
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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its your car but I'd suggest doing a class 11 clone, best of both worlds without the hacking.
Cut and turn the front to save on spindles, it won't have as good of a ride thoughh |
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67ctbug Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2016 Posts: 3619 Location: CT
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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FullFender wrote: |
its your car but I'd suggest doing a class 11 clone, best of both worlds without the hacking.
Cut and turn the front to save on spindles, it won't have as good of a ride thoughh |
Yeah do a class 11, still off road but not as much cutting. _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'73 Dodge W200
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016
KentPS wrote: |
...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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Frank A Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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67ctbug wrote: |
Please don't cut that beauty.... |
It's very photogenic. (nice 10 footer). Heater tunnels have some rot and I think all fenders have been replaced. |
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Frank A Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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Mal evolent wrote: |
+1 on don't cut that car. find a baja bug that has already been butchered
if you go beyond 3" up you need to go wider too. if you go higher and wider, you need a cage to tie it all together. find a car that is already higher, wider and cut up, let someone else pay full price for that. sometimes "my loss" really is "your gain" |
I was going to pull the hood and fenders and replace with a baja kit. I'd keep the body parts for possible future use. |
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Frank A Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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FullFender wrote: |
its your car but I'd suggest doing a class 11 clone, best of both worlds without the hacking.
Cut and turn the front to save on spindles, it won't have as good of a ride thoughh |
I'm new to VW's. I just looked up class 11. It looks pretty cool. Maybe I'll start with that and see how it goes before replacing fenders. |
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veeweeman Samba Member
Joined: December 20, 2009 Posts: 940 Location: New Port Richey, FL
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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There is another way to get major lift...look up bus frame baja on youtube...this is when you basically strip the entire bus frame to its skelaton, shorten and attatch it under your existing pan...you will have to use a bus tranny and axles but the end result is well worth it...you get the best of both worlds cuz the bus suspension is extremely beefy and the tranny will be tough too and it will all be done with stock parts...bay window buses are still plentiful...all you need is a rolling carcus a sawsall and a welder...look for '72 thru '79 all have disk brakes.
It's your car...it does look extremely nice to hack the ends off...if the motor is solid than yank the motor and sell that nice body to a pureist that will preserve the vw as is...there are still plenty of bugs to choose from that already have some body damage that aren't as clean as yours... |
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Mal evolent Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2009 Posts: 2912 Location: San Antonio, Nuevo Mexico
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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was going to pull the hood and fenders and replace with a baja kit. |
you have to cut sheet metal to put on a baja kit.
it's like doing cosmetic surgery on Nicole Kidman to make her look like Roseann Barr. _________________ 73 Beetle Baja, Ghia front brakes, Type 3 rear brakes, 2220 ( 94 X 80 ), Weber Progressive, Bosch SVDA, '97 Mustang seats
Baja Bugs for Volkswagen Virgins: Index |
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Dürtwagen Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2016 Posts: 271 Location: Cottonwood, Arizona
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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I'm on the "don't cut it" side.. as mentioned above you need to chop and drill the body for the fiberglass to fit and attach. and there's prettymuch no going back. It may look good from 10 feet away but its still a complete beetle. _________________ 1974 VW baja bug
1979 Mercedes Benz 300D |
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Frank A Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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Ok....So you all have convinced me not to cut it up (for now). I think I'm going to lift it and try for that class 11 look. |
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Frank A Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2017 Posts: 13 Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:52 am Post subject: Re: Baja lift suggestions |
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Mal evolent wrote: |
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was going to pull the hood and fenders and replace with a baja kit. |
you have to cut sheet metal to put on a baja kit.
it's like doing cosmetic surgery on Nicole Kidman to make her look like Roseann Barr. |
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