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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

Have been repainting and putting things back together, and am having trouble locating the correct grommet for the hole to the right of the "D". It appears to be 18-20mm but I haven't found a part number yet for it

Any help would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

Thanks. You always pull through for me. It's been a long time since I've been on. Life changes and things take a backseat sometimes. But trying to get her back up and running after dropping the set screw for the points in the engine tins.

Had to take the tins off to get to it, so might as well paint them. 3 years later ...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

Is that not the location for the fuel pressure regulator to mount?

Is this tin original to your 73 carb'd bus?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

Yes, as far as I know.

Not sure what happened to the response I received earlier from hazetguy. The post disappeared. But he had said it was alternator, so checking that out.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

I'll have a look next time I'm near a 73 to confirm, I suspect it's for the EGR vacuum line that goes to the Tee in the brake booster line upstream of the check valve.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

Sorry for the confusion/quick edit/delete.

The pic i originally posted:
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Wasn't sure if that was accurate info. There are not as many holes in my tin.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

If I remember correctly, the alternator comes up through the tin near. The passenger side heater hole. I'll go ahead and order all my other grommets and get everything back together and then we'll see whats left.😀
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

That is the hot air pre-heat ducting path for 1700 and 1800 dual carburetor engines.

You're talking about the hole next to it? Wiring harness path for alternator. Grommet hard for me to find.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

It's all coming back to me now, Hazetguy's pic is correct, the heavy alternator wire to the starter does go there. The alternator harness does come up near the booster fan tube, then it splits and goes up to the regulator while the big wire continues forward to the starter.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

Not sure how to repost a quote or copy a photo from a former post but --- what is the purpose of the vertical conduit attached to the back of the tin shown in Hazetguy's photo that attaches to the cup/dish like fixture on the engine side of the fire wall?

I dropped my Type 4 engine this past spring and came across this apparatus. I cleaned it up and painted it but am not clear of its function. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

It supplies hot air off the #1 cylinder to the carbs to speed warmup after a cold start.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

Wildthings wrote:
It supplies hot air off the #1 cylinder to the carbs to speed warmup after a cold start.


...and I use it as a hot air feed to my controversial Weber Progressive. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:21 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

Got it- is the warm air released into the engine bay in general or is there some kind of added attachment or duct work that directs the warm air directly on to the carb(s)?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

Flex tube connects from donut up to air box. Hot air not dumped into engine bay. Search out 1972-1974 PDSIT dual carburetor.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

Whaanga wrote:
Got it- is the warm air released into the engine bay in general or is there some kind of added attachment or duct work that directs the warm air directly on to the carb(s)?


No, definitely not directly into engine compartment. Originally, there was an airbox that the duct fed into, with additional attachments. I don't have pictures readily available, but have been collecting the parts through the years to go back original to solve the heat in the winter/progressive issue.

On the engine side, there is another piece of metal that bolts to it and then the other end is formed into a circle. Then the airbox attaches to that piece.

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Actually it appears in this photo supplied earlier.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Engine Tin Hole Reply with quote

Thanks Guys for the help. Will post some photos of the newly painted engine bay today.

Had to pull my tins again last night to respray, because after painting and reinstalling, SOMEONE got overly excited when he tested the new paint on the engine bay and didn't fully tape everything like he should have. oops, a little overspray. lol.

Oh well, time spent on the bus is better than time spent in the office.

Chek out the pics here: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8532064#8532064
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