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0to60in6min Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2006 Posts: 3416 Location: OR & CA (Oregon/California)
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:11 pm Post subject: Difference between 2 Syncros... |
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hi all,
I have a '90 tintop syncro (Syncro1) and I recently got another '90 tintop syncro (Syncro2)...
Could anyone help me to see/understand what are following differences mean.. thanks in advance...
Syncro1:
- measured at center to fender lip - it sits 18"
- 14" rims with General Grabber AT2 27X8.5
- original springs with OM Emu shocks
- most importantly it has this .. please see pic to compare..
Syncro2:
- measured at center to fender lip - it sits 19"
- 16" rims with BFG 215/65/16
- original springs with original shocks
- most importantly it has this .. please see pic to compare..
the thing is the lower A arms are different... does it give a clue for anything?
thanks
dan |
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levi Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 5522 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:22 am Post subject: Re: difference between 2 Syncro... |
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Kinda looks to me like the top has a stamped arm and the bottom has a cast arm.
BUT, hell.... I've never had a syncro so I'm probably wrong. _________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
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gonna see life my way
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mackaymanx Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2006 Posts: 479 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:50 am Post subject: Re: difference between 2 Syncro... |
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Stamped arm is early and cast arm is late, don't the exact cut off date for the change. From what I know they should both have the cast arms but they are interchangable as a set(including sway bar links) _________________ [url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate2-18600.png]Click to view image[/URL] |
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Waldi Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2014 Posts: 1752 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:19 am Post subject: Re: difference between 2 Syncro... |
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Stamped arms were to 88, but in the last Syncros they mixed all parts in Austria.
Or somebody changed them. |
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davevickery Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2005 Posts: 2887 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: difference between 2 Syncro... |
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My 89 model year has the early control arms too. Another difference I think is the window seals on the earlier 89 vans have the plastic "chrome" strips in them, from later in '89 they are solid black. |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9923 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: difference between 2 Syncro... |
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According to VW Parts, the Syncro lower arms changed about 1/3 of the way through the 1989 model year. They give an exact vin# for the change.
Mark
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My 89 model year has the early control arms too. Another difference I think is the window seals on the earlier 89 vans have the plastic "chrome" strips in them, from later in '89 they are solid black. |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32584 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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0to60in6min Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2006 Posts: 3416 Location: OR & CA (Oregon/California)
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: difference between 2 Syncro... |
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you're right djkeev ! ! !
I was happy and I think I'd be more happy... as I am already now...
I will be even MORE happy if I have 2 wives...
remember Dustin Hoffman in the Little Big Man movie ? ?
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16CVs Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 4024 Location: Redwood City, California
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:17 am Post subject: Re: difference between 2 Syncro... |
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My 89 had one of each. I suspect someone changed one due to some accident or ? Not surprising as had 196K on it when I bought it.
While I prefer to Cast units, the hardcore off roaders like the stamped one because it gives the lower one more articulation.
I updated my 87 to cast units and sent my cast arms to My friend Burley so they could live on.
When it came to rebuild the front end of 89, I got a set of cast units and changed but of them with all new parts. And again sent the old ones To Burley.
I wouldn't worry about it one way or the other, it's just VW constantly improving their products.
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gears Samba Member
Joined: October 28, 2002 Posts: 4391 Location: Tamarack, Bend, Kailua
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:03 am Post subject: Re: difference between 2 Syncro... |
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