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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

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germanx wrote:
And no matter how many people will ask the moderator to stop me from spreading bad mood, a state of the art Diesel engine still is by far causing the least damage considering the full resource cycle, not only the middle part of driving the car.

I'm happy to debate why I think you're wrong and provide evidence to back my assertion... however, I won't derail my build thread to do that... feel free to start a topic on electric transport in the "General/Chat" forum... that's what we did on the SSVC forum Smile


looks like you are building from a recycled Tesla and a recycled VW bus. No reason to not do that, power generation will be cleaner in the future, why wait?

keep on keeping on
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

fan/rad support bracket in place... still to come are the side panels that will seal the 'cooling cabinet' and some splash protection for water thrown up by the rear wheels (we've taken the precaution of using IP67 fans and will use boots on the light fittings).

The basic idea is that cooling air will be sucked in from the slots on the side of the bus, travel down through the radiator (not fitted in the photos), through the fan, and finally exit via the hole behind the rear wheel. At this time we've no real idea how much/little cooling the electrical systems require so this is an experiment to say the least Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

If you'd like to see the bus or talk about electric drive, I'll be at the Fully Charged Live show in June Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

3D printing the prototype water pump mounting brackets... another great example of open source and design sharing Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Will that become the final mount or do you have to have it made in metal?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

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Will that become the final mount or do you have to have it made in metal?

This prototype was printed in PETG (an 'improved' ABS) which is both cheap and quick to print. I expected to have some tolerance issues because the design is 'tight' but it all worked out fine.

I will now have some printed in Nylon and run those in the bus. It would be easy to have them printed (or CNC'ed) in Aluminium or Steel but that's really only economic when you have volumes of 10 or more.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Zero EV (here) have just announced a LSD for the small Tesla drive unit... not something I will fit initially but with ~350HP available it might be needed when I step on the gas at the drag strip Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Frame for twin chargers and HVJB ready for mounting under the rear seat Smile

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Some great progress with the open source motor controller... here's the large Tesla drive unit in a BMW 8 Series conversion Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Change of plan on the cooling... I found a couple of CSF Drag Race Radiators which at 14.5" x 10" x 3.5" (~6" with fan fitted) are a good fit for the 'cooling cabinets' Cool

Will be a shame to have such beautiful items out of sight Very Happy

http://csfrace.com/the-king-cooler/

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

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Your prop rod is on backwards. The "prongs" should curve to the right and be hidden behind the bracket when the decklid is fully open. Also prevents injury when messing around in the engine compartment.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

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Your prop rod is on backwards.

Many thanks, I'll get that changed Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

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Your prop rod is on backwards.

Come on Elvis...you of all people should know if he flips it that will reverse the polarity.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

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Your prop rod is on backwards.

Come on Elvis...you of all people should know if he flips it that will reverse the polarity.


LOL. Then he will have 4 reverse gears and one forward! Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

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Your prop rod is on backwards.

Come on Elvis...you of all people should know if he flips it that will reverse the polarity.


LOL. Then he will have 4 reverse gears and one forward! Wink

Luckily this is not an issue with a tesla drive unit Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

Heated windscreens arrived today Very Happy More information in this thread;

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

I'm reusing the steering wheel/column and switchgear from a 1980's Rolls-Royce. Includes 'gear' selector and cruise control for the Tesla drive unit and supports wide range of steering wheels including heated Cool

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

A conversion kit for the Bay Window Bus will be available later in the year Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:19 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: ICE Breaker - converting a 1967 split to electric drive Reply with quote

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Unfortunately I've been busy helping with other projects Very Happy


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