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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:27 am    Post subject: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

Looking for the part number or where I can find this part. It is the connector between the rubber brake line and the hard metal brake lines. I have tried to loosen this part with no luck. I applied heat, penetrating oil, and brute strength. I would like to just cut it away and get a new one. Can anyone point me in the right direction ?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:02 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

you mean that springy u-shaped clip?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

That is part of the rubber brake hose, just order new hoses.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

allenw said:

That is part of the rubber brake hose, just order new hoses.

Nope, I cut the rubber brake line to get a better grip on the connector. The rubber lines are being replaced with stainless steel lines. In fact everything down to the wheel bearing is being replaced.

bhartwell59 wrote:
you mean that springy u-shaped clip?


No it's the connector that passes through the "springy u-shaped clip"
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

Can I presume You've placed a spanner on the hard line and turned it counter clockwise while a Vyse Grip is holding the connector where it's showing numerous scratches?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

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Can I presume You've placed a spanner on the hard line and turned it counter clockwise while a Vyse Grip is holding the connector where it's showing numerous scratches?
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Yes I tried that even put a pipe on the other wench. Used heat and oil. Borrowed the guy across the street, no luck. It's fused together.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:57 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

CiderGuy wrote:
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Can I presume You've placed a spanner on the hard line and turned it counter clockwise while a Vyse Grip is holding the connector where it's showing numerous scratches?
Nicholas


Yes I tried that even put a pipe on the other wench. Used heat and oil. Borrowed the guy across the street, no luck. It's fused together.


In that case, does the hard line unscrew from the master cylinder? If so, you can replace that along with the hose.

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D113%2D611%2D724%2DC

and
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D113%2D611%2D701%2DD

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

sputnick60 wrote:
CiderGuy wrote:
sputnick60 wrote:
Can I presume You've placed a spanner on the hard line and turned it counter clockwise while a Vyse Grip is holding the connector where it's showing numerous scratches?
Nicholas


Yes I tried that even put a pipe on the other wench. Used heat and oil. Borrowed the guy across the street, no luck. It's fused together.


In that case, does the hard line unscrew from the master cylinder? If so, you can replace that along with the hose.

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D113%2D611%2D724%2DC

and
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D113%2D611%2D701%2DD

Nicholas


I have not tried the hard-line side. But everything doing with anything concerning the brakes is being replaced. The connector doesn't seem to be able to pull through the clip
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:06 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

Grab a that clip and pull it by the lip towards you till it comes off. The connection . it comes out once the clip is removed.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

As soon as I get home I will try that thank you. I still need the connector it is mangled from the vice grip, wrench and whatever.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

The connection is part of the hose.
This photo shows the support and the hole the connection goes through
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Sure a rhd set up but just the same as lhd in that regard.
This photo shows the connections without the hardline but mounted with clips in the supports.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

I had a hard time with that part too... a 50/50 mix of ATF+acetone helped me.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

bhartwell59 wrote:
I had a hard time with that part too... a 50/50 mix of ATF+acetone helped me.


Unfortunately, I managed the part so I need to find a replacement.

Nicholas, I fully understand where everything goes, I just need the replacement connector. I can cut the piece off in 5 seconds.

I am doing a body off restoration of a 1970 convertible. I have replaced the pans, strengthen the Napoleon hat with some small angle, even welded closed a small hole I found in the front beam. I have purchased every part for the brakes, including a duel reservoir master cylinder, but that damn connector Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

I don't mean to sound insulting, sorry if it came accross that way. I'm probably confused about what you mean by the connector. I added photos to help make the problem clearer. The bit held by the clip in the support is swaged to the flexible hose. This is equivalent to the bit you've mangled. It won't come off the hose.

So sorry this isn't a help

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

There is no "connector". That's the end of the flex hose that's screwed onto the hard line.

Remove the u-shaped clip from the body mounting tab. The end of the hose doesn't pull through the tab, it slides out after you remove the u shaped clip. That clip holds the end of the flex hose in place.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

I'm currently amassing parts for a brake overhaul myself. I just snapped this pic of the end of the flex hose. This is your connector.
That little 2mm slot at the head is what the U shaped clip slides into. I think you've been trying to unscrew the end of the flex hose from itself!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

CiderGuy wrote:
The rubber lines are being replaced with stainless steel lines.


I think this is causing the confusion because the stainless braided hoses have different fittings to the original hoses. I was going to install stainless hoses on my bus but decided not to use them because the fittings were different and I wasn't convinced they fit properly. Also after some research I found that stainless hoses weren't any good (there is a thread on here somewhere which explains why) so I used rubber hoses and I suggest you do the same.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

Era Vulgaris wrote:
There is no "connector". That's the end of the flex hose that's screwed onto the hard line.

Remove the u-shaped clip from the body mounting tab. The end of the hose doesn't pull through the tab, it slides out after you remove the u shaped clip. That clip holds the end of the flex hose in place.

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I'll try that as soon as I get home. I do hope you're correct about no connector, but even so nothing is coming apart.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

Mellow Yellow 74 wrote:
CiderGuy wrote:
The rubber lines are being replaced with stainless steel lines.


I think this is causing the confusion because the stainless braided hoses have different fittings to the original hoses. I was going to install stainless hoses on my bus but decided not to use them because the fittings were different and I wasn't convinced they fit properly. Also after some research I found that stainless hoses weren't any good (there is a thread on here somewhere which explains why) so I used rubber hoses and I suggest you do the same.


I have the stainless hoses already, I'll check if that is true. I hope you're wrong about this ......
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: Help - Brake Line Connector Need part # or where to find source Reply with quote

CiderGuy wrote:
Era Vulgaris wrote:
There is no "connector". That's the end of the flex hose that's screwed onto the hard line.

Remove the u-shaped clip from the body mounting tab. The end of the hose doesn't pull through the tab, it slides out after you remove the u shaped clip. That clip holds the end of the flex hose in place.

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I'll try that as soon as I get home. I do hope you're correct about no connector, but even so nothing is coming apart.


It's not turning because that u shaped clip holds everything tightly in place (and they can be a bitch to remove if they start to rust onto the body mounting tab!). You need to remove the clip and pull the end of those out of the tab before you try to unscrew it from the hard line. There's no way your going to get it loose until you remove the u shaped clip.
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