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Tcash Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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aeromech wrote: |
Tim,
That's a two man operation. We used something similar at USAir. Works good for raising the tire high enough to slide onto the axle. The dolly is one man. Adjust it to the correct height and it takes the weight of the wheel at which point one guy can easily slide a very heavy wheel off by himself and roll it to the side.
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Maybe my description is not the best. But the tool I depicted is a one man operation. |
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lil-jinx Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2013 Posts: 1109 Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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This is funny,every week i do at least one semi trailer brake job,2 or 3 axles 4 tires per axle each weighting between 2 -3 hundred lb,only tool I use is a 3 foot bar,crouch down beside the tire,put my shoulder against the tire and steady it by putting my arm around the tire them rolling the tire onto the bar and then lifting the tire onto the hub,did this more time then I care to remember.And I'm a tall skinny 60 year old.I do this after using a 12 lb mall to break the wheels and brake drum free from the hub. _________________ https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620186
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scottyrocks Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2016 Posts: 2645 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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[quote="Alan Brase"]
Busstom wrote: |
then get the tires on both toes or insteps of my feet. Only slight motion of my feet will line up the holes. |
I do the same but sometimes use the insides of different parts of my legs. I can hold a wheel/tire steady against the drum that way and start all the bolts. _________________ “If you care for a thing long enough, it takes on a life of its own, doesn't it? Mending old things, preserving them, looking after them – on some level there's no rational grounds for it.”
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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Well I ache at times. Whether I work hard or not. Last night my right shoulder kept me awake because of that brake job. I spent $227 today hoping to avoid that in the future. I have several tools that I've bought in the last few years to limit my exposure to health problems like carpal tunnel, etc. You heros go ahead and beat yourselves to death, or not. I'm just telling you about myself. We all have choices and the ones I'm making hopefully will help me stay healthy enough going forward to let me continue to enjoy my passion which is working with tools. I'll let you know what I think.
Afterthought:
I've been a professional mechanic since 1983 when the government gave me a license. I've known several fellow mechanics who've suffered back and wrist problems. I've known several who've also lost fingers on the job. So far, I'm not one of those guys. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5680 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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I have an alignment pin that I use on the Thing sometimes. That is nice because with the wide 5 wheels, it is rather difficult to hold the rim up as you get a bolt started otherwise. The hubs on the Bus' and its much smaller opening makes it easy enough for me to use the foot trick or whatever to get a bolt started.
The alignment pin is not much more than an aluminum "dowel" about 5 inches long with a couple threads. You thread it in and lift the wheel up and slide one of the bolt holes over the pin. That supports it enough to pretty easily swivel the tire to a point to start the other 4 bolts. _________________ Dave Cook
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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No doubt if you're only going to consider mechanics on just one vehicle, a person could collect several specific tools. The brake job was on a 2013 Kia Sorrento. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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[i]Maybe my description is not the best. But the tool I depicted is a one man[/i
I'm thinking about using one on a Boeing. It took one guy on the end of the handle and another on the tire to line everything up before mating the wheel. It's possible I guess for a guy to do that by himself on a bus. Once the wheel comes off using the fork, a guy would still need to lay the wheel down and then later lift it up to reinstall. I think the dolly is a much better method. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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TomWesty Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2007 Posts: 3482 Location: Wyoming,USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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Any time I can make use of a tool that saves my back or shoulders I take advantage of it. _________________ If you haven't bled on them, you haven't worked on them.
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Busstom Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2014 Posts: 3790 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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[quote="scottyrocks"]
Alan Brase wrote: |
Busstom wrote: |
then get the tires on both toes or insteps of my feet. Only slight motion of my feet will line up the holes. |
I do the same but sometimes use the insides of different parts of my legs. I can hold a wheel/tire steady against the drum that way and start all the bolts. |
I think something got wonky with that quote...those aren't my words
But I've used that - and your - method in years past. I used to sit on the ground, roll the tire up onto my lap, then simply lift my knees and hoist er up to the holes...but I'm tired of crawling on the ground these days...especially since I'm often wearing shorts when I wrench, don't want dirty tires on my legs (I know, I know )
I'm looking forward to Gary's review.....but I may be a bit cheap, I guess...of course, $227 is worth it to save some lumbar discs! |
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lil-jinx Samba Member
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:44 am Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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I've found power tools take huge wear and tear off my hands and wrists when wrenching. I just did a garage door in two hours, all the lags and hardware done with a Bosch18 V
To the older guys without hurts..Great! Just remember, when they do come, you won't cure. I'm paying attention to anything that reduces wear and tear. _________________ .ssS! |
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madmike Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:47 am Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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Ha, had to laugh at "us old guys " I'm putting up fire wood, for the last two weeks and yesterday swapped out both rear axles and re-adjusted the torsion bars on the bus,, thanking god for the Hot tub/spa & the fact i get to grow my own Meds
gonna try that shovel trick , I usually use a long pry bar to lift the tires _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12816 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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Here's your tire dolly old man
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:00 am Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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I spent the big money to buy this little gizmo...and use a scrap 1x4 about 30" long with my foot to lever the tire/wheel combo up to where it needs to be.
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Tcash Samba Member
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TomWesty Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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I mostly just employ the jack to bring the car down to where you don't have to lift at all. All you have to do is spin the hub or tire. _________________ If you haven't bled on them, you haven't worked on them.
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:35 am Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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TomWesty wrote: |
I mostly just employ the jack to bring the car down to where you don't have to lift at all. All you have to do is spin the hub or tire. |
Ding Ding Ding... We have a winnah! _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:57 am Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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TomWesty wrote: |
I mostly just employ the jack to bring the car down to where you don't have to lift at all. All you have to do is spin the hub or tire. |
Usually any car I'm working on is supported by jack stands. Sometimes front and back. All the tires are off so I can do some kind of maintenance. I want to install the tires prior to removing the stands. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
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VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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aeromech wrote: |
TomWesty wrote: |
I mostly just employ the jack to bring the car down to where you don't have to lift at all. All you have to do is spin the hub or tire. |
Usually any car I'm working on is supported by jack stands. Sometimes front and back. All the tires are off so I can do some kind of maintenance. I want to install the tires prior to removing the stands. |
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Tire Dolly's for Old Dudes |
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I've looked at those Bill but it would take up a lot of floor space plus when in use there is no way to work under the car. Might be great for brake jobs though.
I'd love to have one of these but I'd need a whole new garage
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DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
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