Collecting parts for a 2332

[Paul.H]

Not so long ago I had a conversation with someone who had a motor built with an 86mm T1chev crank and he didn't even make it to the dyno before his flywheel fell off and the front pulley had destroyed itself (steel billet hub). I told him it was crank flex and bad harmonics he disagreed and bought the exact same replacement crank. Now it could be possible that the person who built the engine didn't tighten things up enough

[fivelugshortaxle]

[Paul.H]

[UK Luke 72]

Well how retarded is that?!
Preventative maintenance... There's a whole industry built around it. I'm in it

Why you would not start stout is beyond me, the attitude of 'well if it breaks, it breaks' doth butter no parsnips.

T4 centre main
Modified Porsche rods on a 2.165" journal (a la Dan Ruddock)
Wedgemate
Shuffle pins (if staying Mag)

Make the bottom end stronger than Pammies bra straps
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[fivelugshortaxle]

There are literally hundreds of 2332's driving on the streets with with standard vw mains and Chevy rod journals. And as far as the flywheel coming off, there's no amount of crank flex in the world that will cause that if it had been torqued the way it was supposed to be. Brothers VW recommended this specific crank through ease of assembly. I voiced concern over all this hoopla to them and they said as long as I'm not running turbo with a ton of boost or running nitous or dumping the clutch with slicks at 5,000 rpm it would be fine and last as long as anything.
So, as usual, if your advice is to simply spit out bullshit meant to discourage or make yourself look cool with snide comments ...don't bother. I may be a "newbie" and not part of the cool guy builder club but I don't care. I've had my successful 1st time striker build with the 2276. It's apart only to change out the cam gear and will also be getting the cb2292 put in to play nicer with the Super Pros. The damage I saw on the rod bearings was from me experimenting a bit too much with the timing trying to see when it would show signs of detonation....I found it, just happened to be about 10 miles from home when I did and no tools with me to dial it back. Babies it home saves the motor. Only damage was to rod bearings.
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Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc

[fivelugshortaxle]

Here.....not written by me.

Chevy Journal 
Pros: several options for high quality/performance bearings; less bearing speed at high RPM; less clearancing required for a given stroke (given limited case and cam clearance, you can run a longer stroke with a Chevy journal) 
Cons: less rod/main journal overlap leaves the crank inherently weaker compared to the VW journal. How much weaker? The most powerful VW drag race engines on the track today use Chevy journals; they are also using larger main journal diameters (mitigates the smaller rod journal diameter) and among the highest quality components. 

For most folks, the decision is made over the convenience of case clearancing for larger strokes. Unless you are building an engine that will be pushed to the envelope, you probably won't see any adverse effects of either rod journal. That said, I prefer the VW journal at strokes of 82mm and smaller, and a 411 center main bearing to provide the most overlap for crank strength. You can certainly get by with less.

Now bugger off
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Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc

[Paul.H]

I dont see heads on your list and what vents do you have in those Dells?

[HotStreetVw]

[Esky]

You'll be fine. You're not building an engine on the ragged edge. I would at least get some IDA's on it to let it breath some. Have fun with it.

[fivelugshortaxle]

[fivelugshortaxle]

[vwracerdave]

Your 45 Dells with 38mm venturies will work great and you can run real full sized air cleaners with the deck lid closed.
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[fivelugshortaxle]

[UK Luke 72]

Slug, you seem to take a bit of discussion quite personal (again)... I guess my issue is the whole 'sky is the limit' when really it ought to read 'just another 2332 but I'm gonna build it from up Steve Longs arse crack'

We all know it'll work just like we all know 1600s will run 10s 1/4s if you pipe a HX40 up it's chuff... But to build it with the attitude that you know it's likely going to pound the case and hammer the bearings more so than if you did a few mods that have been proven to help them last without really adding a great deal to the cost doesn't really stack up.
That being said, I know Richie Webb ran a T1 mains Scat crank in the 9s 1/4... Wedgemated though IIRC but it never died. Mag case too for a while I believe!
Although that engine was built by a pro and serviced regularly.


But hey I guess my time is too valuable to be pulling the engine every time the wind changed direction.
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[fivelugshortaxle]

[Paul.H]

If you want a nice "Safe Space" then stick to "Farcebook" where you can block people.

Did you stay up late or get up early ? Must be 4 am in California

[fivelugshortaxle]

[Paul.H]

[jason]

I have a Berg 86, T4 center with Porsche journals. Anything over 82 will have T4 center for me. I like things as strong as possible. I have bad throttle control.
I have CB rockers that spec’d higher. 1.4’s are 1.51 and 1.3’s are almost 1.4. I’m with Dan. The heads change the ratio. I put my 1.4’s on og heads and they spec’d 1.4. Put on my Tim’s heads and 1.5. The rocker stud placement changes swipe.

[Dan Ruddock]