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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
jason wrote:
I ran cool tins. I bumped compression and took them out, ran cooler.


I recently pulled my 1915 and bumped the compression from 7.6:1 to 8.5:1 (tighter deck), I left my modified cool tin and temps went down as well.

I think a more efficient burn affects CHT more than cooling tin choices.

SS pistons (domed) react better to higher compression making an even more efficient burn possible.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
UK Luke 72 wrote:
Nyloc nuts on the case half's?
Did you account for the additional torque required?


My in-lb torque wrench only goes down to 30 in-lb. the nylon still turned at that setting. This is about 2.5 ft-lbs. so it takes less then that to turn the nyloc. You also have to think how accurate is the torq wrench really.

Regarding the cool tins I use them on a 2109 with welded heads. Never have had any temp issues. I have an oil temp gage on that engine that I monitor on hot days. So I'm also going to use them on this engine.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
Yeah the nylon locknuts really don't hurt anything, IMO.
I avoid using them for the same reason I don't use orange silicone sealant.
So I don't look like an idiot.
People on a -professional- level see either and assume it was assembled by a goober.
However, once you get to master level, you realize it's actually not the case, just a stereotype. The stock hardware was actually NOT better than general purpose locknuts, and the color of sealant really doesn't matter. In fact the original orange is still one of the best when used correctly.
I sealed my case together with a red sealant, looks a lot like 518, but it's actually just ketchup.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
I used to use the black oxide case hardware kit from Century but finally used the last one.

Who is selling a non nyloc kit these days?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
I get all my hardware at ace hardware. If they don't have something I need next is tacoma screw products.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
I like to use JIS b1190 flanged nuts. I buy them on the internet, whoever has some for sale.

I got some at the hardware store once. They ordered them by mistake. Pretty sad, if the only way they can stock what I need is by accident, No wonder the internet sales are "taking over"
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
Set up berg bolt together rocker shafts with stock 1.1:1 rockers.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
Got some pre bent 1 3/4 exhaust pipe. Opened up some stock heaterboxes for the skins then Fit the j tubes in to the skins. They will be sand blasted and coated inside and out before final assembly. I will also have to make some nice thick flanges.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
Welded and ported intake manifolds.

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
Got the inside of the heaterboxes coated in por15 manifold gray. J tubes installed and welded and pinched back together. Also got a gene berg 3.5 quart deep sump and Jaycee magnetic sump plate.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
Started to modify the upper cylinder tins to fit the intake manifolds and close up the gaps.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
Cb performance super duty aluminum push rods cut to length

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2018 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
Great job on this build! Why the W-130? What is your CR? What do you think your HP will be?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
I wood of got some steel flat stock and fined the header tubes so they release heat mo better. or a fined aluminum extrusion fit to the tube.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
I have a w130 in a 2109 and I like it so I wanted to use one for this build. Also I'm useing 1.1:1 rockers which the w series is made for. The compression is set at 10:1. I don't know what it's going to make. I plan on getting it dynoed at some point.

This is the third set of heater boxes I have made. The only difference is they were 1 5/8". They blow good heat. I do agree that having fins would help but the pipes alone are good enough for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
scotty timmerman wrote:
I have a w130 in a 2109 and I like it so I wanted to use one for this build. Also I'm useing 1.1:1 rockers which the w series is made for. The compression is set at 10:1. I don't know what it's going to make. I plan on getting it dynoed at some point.

This is the third set of heater boxes I have made. The only difference is they were 1 5/8". They blow good heat. I do agree that having fins would help but the pipes alone are good enough for me.


The W130 is a great cam if you absolutely can not afford ratio rockers. I would of left out the total seals to make room in the budget for ratio rockers and a ratio rocker cam. Big stock rockers cams IMO are obsolete. An old school solution that needs to be left in the past.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
Got exhaust mocked up for the heater boxes.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
All the tins fitted then sandblasted and powder coated. I’m useing a fuel injected fan shroud with a velocity ring. Also have functional thermostat and flaps. Almost ready to go in.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
W130 Engle with stock rockers, "OLD SCHOOL"


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: 2332cc build Reply with quote
Is this a type 1 or a type 4 engine you are building? I was referenced here while trying to build my type 4 engine in another thread.
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