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SGKent 
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Just fire it up Robbie and break it in. You should be getting 60,000 to 80,000 per engine - are you?
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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Too much oil in the cyls= rings that will never seat
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Xevin
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:58 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| asiab3 wrote: |
Anybody have any tips for waking up a new engine out of storage?
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Abscate
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:23 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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Sacrifice parts to the VW a Gods.
I've got a stuck number 5 cylinder in a Volvo engine soaking in acetone ATF diesel for a week. At least my buckets are upright.
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airschooled
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:17 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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The death rattle is approaching in my current engine, but I really want a few more months out of it.
I've rotated it once a month, and dropped some oil down the plug holes when I remembered. There are no pushrods installed, so no valve tension or cam lube wiping.
Anybody have any tips for waking up a new engine out of storage?
Robbie
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Stuartzickefoose
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| asiab3 wrote: |
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This is #vanlifeFORREAL:
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Close! Have fun messing up your bed every time you have to get at the engine? My bed stayed in place for eight months on the road… But I did have that smoke issue literally one time… In front of YOU!
Robbie |
Funny that was literally the only thing about my entire trip that irritated me on the van...wished I had a rearward hatch!
But for a van I paid this much for I think I can live with it for now.
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airschooled
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:05 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
This is #vanlifeFORREAL:
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Close! Have fun messing up your bed every time you have to get at the engine? My bed stayed in place for eight months on the road… But I did have that smoke issue literally one time… In front of YOU!
Robbie
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airschooled
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| I just wrapped up a professional photo shoot for Air-Schooled. I CAN NOT WAIT to post some photos here. I nearly peed when I saw the proofs today. |
You mean we are finally going to get that hay bale or fruit picking pic (or whatever the hell the unfulfilled Vanlife based subject was)?
Not entirely sure my eyes are up for that big fella! |
The hay bale was done! I just can't find it online, crap. The apple one is around for those who look… 
I felt so bad about not fulfilling the chicken coop shot, I'm driving around the country again this May.
Robbie
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Stuartzickefoose
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:11 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| busdaddy wrote: |
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| I just wrapped up a professional photo shoot for Air-Schooled. I CAN NOT WAIT to post some photos here. I nearly peed when I saw the proofs today. |
You mean we are finally going to get that hay bale or fruit picking pic (or whatever the hell the unfulfilled Vanlife based subject was)?
Not entirely sure my eyes are up for that big fella! |
This is #vanlifeFORREAL:
But Robbie doesn’t end up on the side of the road without my help so my guess is his pics are much better
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| asiab3 wrote: |
| I just wrapped up a professional photo shoot for Air-Schooled. I CAN NOT WAIT to post some photos here. I nearly peed when I saw the proofs today. |
You mean we are finally going to get that hay bale or fruit picking pic (or whatever the hell the unfulfilled Vanlife based subject was)?
Not entirely sure my eyes are up for that big fella!
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airschooled
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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Not to derail Robbie's thread - but... eehhhh.... it Robbie's thread so what the hell.
When I just opened the Samba, the thread right below this one was:
"Broken Engine Stud"
so naturally I thought Robbie dropped the block on his foot and was just complaining he got hurt. |
Ha! Glad I could jog your heart rate a little.
After doing the math, the old engine will be visiting you this spring and summer. New engine will go in around October unless something drastic makes me change my mind. It consumes about two to three quarts of oil every 3,000 miles, which is annoying for long trips, but still cheaper to add than the requisite five oil changes of a new engine build before I would drive it out of my time zone.
The transaxle has a death rattle in neutral after a long pull in second gear. It’s done it for two years now. Problem is, it sounds like a cracked lifter so I get a little scared if I’m not aware of what I’m hearing. Current engine sounds good- Might even do its second ever compression test next week...
I just wrapped up a professional photo shoot for Air-Schooled. I CAN NOT WAIT to post some photos here. I nearly peed when I saw the proofs today.
Robbie
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andrewtf
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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Not to derail Robbie's thread - but... eehhhh.... it Robbie's thread so what the hell.
When I just opened the Samba, the thread right below this one was:
"Broken Engine Stud"
so naturally I thought Robbie dropped the block on his foot and was just complaining he got hurt.
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How can a service center for vw keep in business now a days.-  |
That is the major reason my local long-time air cooled only shop closed its doors a few years back. They still have a wonderful working machine shop, but they do not touch VW parts anymore. |
This the number 1 reason independent VW gurus who were around when these air-cooled vehicles were everywhere are closed and/or closing. Hell, if they're any left to close LOL!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| williamM wrote: |
How can a service center for vw keep in business now a days.- |
That is the major reason my local long-time air cooled only shop closed its doors a few years back. They still have a wonderful working machine shop, but they do not touch VW parts anymore.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| life is so much wasted time when chasing down VW parts that still fit ........... Anyone who has successfully rebuilt a VW bus can call themselves a project manager and parts expediter. |
WHY  is that- recently assembled T-4 with FI went together with almost not ONE new part working as it should- and that includes the foam seal round the motor not being sliced on one side on Grey whale.
The only thing that worked right off was the old alt replacing the new bought /incorrect alt, and that got a pinched ground wire and failed after a while.
I was amazed at how many new bits showed up wrong- from the diameter of the brake assist can, to the new elec portion of the key switch, the first new condenser, new brake wheel cylinders that rusted after the dust caps rotted away in a year or two-- lets not even talk the short shocks for the back or the after market tail light assemblies to fat to fit the tabs- Then there's the door seals and motor cover rubber that cracked and split before assembly and the floor mats that turned into strips where they glued them together
How can a service center for vw keep in business now a days.- |
Kudos to you for sticking to it. No one should have to spend the time VW bus owners do chasing down things that fit/work right. |
Way back - when a guy yelled or threw wrenches- the line got quiet and everybody thought "he's not going to make it"-- not so sure that applies anymore.
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SGKent
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| SGKent wrote: |
| life is so much wasted time when chasing down VW parts that still fit ........... Anyone who has successfully rebuilt a VW bus can call themselves a project manager and parts expediter. |
WHY is that- recently assembled T-4 with FI went together with almost not ONE new part working as it should- and that includes the foam seal round the motor not being sliced on one side on Grey whale.
The only thing that worked right off was the old alt replacing the new bought /incorrect alt, and that got a pinched ground wire and failed after a while.
I was amazed at how many new bits showed up wrong- from the diameter of the brake assist can, to the new elec portion of the key switch, the first new condenser, new brake wheel cylinders that rusted after the dust caps rotted away in a year or two-- lets not even talk the short shocks for the back or the after market tail light assemblies to fat to fit the tabs- Then there's the door seals and motor cover rubber that cracked and split before assembly and the floor mats that turned into strips where they glued them together
How can a service center for vw keep in business now a days.- |
Kudos to you for sticking to it. No one should have to spend the time VW bus owners do chasing down things that fit/work right.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| SGKent wrote: |
| life is so much wasted time when chasing down VW parts that still fit ........... Anyone who has successfully rebuilt a VW bus can call themselves a project manager and parts expediter. |
WHY is that- recently assembled T-4 with FI went together with almost not ONE new part working as it should- and that includes the foam seal round the motor not being sliced on one side on Grey whale.
The only thing that worked right off was the old alt replacing the new bought /incorrect alt, and that got a pinched ground wire and failed after a while.
I was amazed at how many new bits showed up wrong- from the diameter of the brake assist can, to the new elec portion of the key switch, the first new condenser, new brake wheel cylinders that rusted after the dust caps rotted away in a year or two-- lets not even talk the short shocks for the back or the after market tail light assemblies to fat to fit the tabs- Then there's the door seals and motor cover rubber that cracked and split before assembly and the floor mats that turned into strips where they glued them together
How can a service center for vw keep in business now a days.-
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SGKent
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life is so much wasted time when chasing down VW parts that still fit ........... Anyone who has successfully rebuilt a VW bus can call themselves a project manager and parts expediter.
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airschooled
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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Let the witness state that the no-name replacement fuel pump stands do not fit into new VW of Brazil crankcases. kreemoweet lead me on to it over on IAC, but luckily for me the genuine VW flange fits fine. (I sanded .010" off the new part and it fits fine now.)
Also note the lack of double oiling holes on the new reproduction.
And for its final trick, the new fuel pump flange doesn't have as much support for the pump as the original.
Head studs torqued too high,
Robbie
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| There is a long lasting theory in physics that beer consumption causes VW parts to change shape. I don't know if it happens at the factory, warehouse, builder, or all three of the above. Not predicting here but wait until you get ones the right length and they leak at the seams. So as they say when drinking -"here's to you kid - seams up." |
Seams up! Dilly Dilly!
Robbie
(These overextended 40-horse pushrod tubes seem to fit nicely. They seated before the heads did, and they took the flat black paint but good.)
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