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SGKent 
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There is a long lasting theory in physics that beer consumption causes VW parts to change shape. I don't know if it happens at the factory, warehouse, builder, or all three of the above. Not predicting here but wait until you get ones the right length and they leak at the seams. So as they say when drinking -"here's to you kid - seams up."
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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The Samba is getting to be like watching pro wrestling in the Midwest when I was a kid. “ It’s Man Mountain McCarthy and Sarge Kent vs. Pike’s Peak Parker and the California Clatter in a three fall tag team match tonight folks!” Wait.... l tuned in to see Butcher and Mad Dog.......  |
I pay a beer stipend each month to keep the police out of my threads so they can be real sounding boards for people who need to let off some steam.
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So thats why I dont get modded  
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| TomWesty wrote: |
| The Samba is getting to be like watching pro wrestling in the Midwest when I was a kid. “ It’s Man Mountain McCarthy and Sarge Kent vs. Pike’s Peak Parker and the California Clatter in a three fall tag team match tonight folks!” Wait.... l tuned in to see Butcher and Mad Dog....... |
I pay a beer stipend each month to keep the police out of my threads so they can be real sounding boards for people who need to let off some steam.
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TomWesty
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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The Samba is getting to be like watching pro wrestling in the Midwest when I was a kid. “ It’s Man Mountain McCarthy and Sarge Kent vs. Pike’s Peak Parker and the California Clatter in a three fall tag team match tonight folks!” Wait.... l tuned in to see Butcher and Mad Dog.......
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aeromech
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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Okay, you guys need to get a room and fight it out. The winner gets to be the top.
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richparker
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| asiab3 wrote: |
There are chrome and windage pushrod tubes available aplenty. None of those are allowed on my engine.
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And a cam that wasn’t mic’d is. 
Also, I meant suppliers or wholesalers if you will, not part houses.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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Did you know that all our suppliers get their pushrod tubes from the same manufacturer, and that all the pushrod tubes are too long now, and Wolfsburg West and JBugs |
Maybe you should have said, “all the suppliers I’ve tried all get there pushrod tubes from the same manufacturer.” Because what you said isn’t true, there are other suppliers other then the thre you’ve mentioned and there are different tubes out there to be had. One just needs to call the right supplier... |
Parts houses are not suppliers, suppliers are not manufacturers, and booze ain’t food. Did I get that right, Brian?
There are chrome and windage pushrod tubes available aplenty. None of those are allowed on my engine.
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richparker
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| asiab3 wrote: |
Did you know that all our suppliers get their pushrod tubes from the same manufacturer, and that all the pushrod tubes are too long now, and Wolfsburg West and JBugs |
Maybe you should have said, “all the suppliers I’ve tried all get there pushrod tubes from the same manufacturer.” Because what you said isn’t true, there are other suppliers other then the thre you’ve mentioned and there are different tubes out there to be had. One just needs to call the right supplier...
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timvw7476
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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you type 1 (engine) guys....
that hurts to look at. |
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Abscate
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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The squished out parts should have the green stripes clocked, good eye.
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Spike0180
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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I'm no professional, but those push rod tube seals don't look properly installed to me. Seems consistent with the oil pump. Probably optional.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| Brian wrote: |
| Gonna tell everyone about the pushrod experience? |
Lol it went together so smoothly after, I kinda forgot.
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Did you know that all our suppliers get their pushrod tubes from the same manufacturer, and that all the pushrod tubes are too long now, and Wolfsburg West and JBugs all have their bins mixed up with short and long tubes and 40-horse-only pushrod tubes are just right on a 1600 if you stretch them a little? I didn't either! Both business seemed oddly receptive to my "sort your bins and call your supplier" message for a Monday morning…
A few good dues in the performance forum were saying that there were a "few too long" pushrod tubes out there, and one of them said "see what happens." In the name of science, I installed the beautifully prepped and painted pushrod tubes in the 3/4 side of the engine. (They come fully compressed out of the packaging at 7.6") Before the head studs even poked out of their holes, the pushrod tubes were already seated. So I meticulously tightened the oiled lower head nuts up to their requisite 7 ft*lbs and the cylinders weren't even seated yet. Hmmmm… Wonder why??
A quick trip to JBugs for some 40-horse pushrod tubes, an afternoon of paint+margaritas, and new seals brought us to the current state. 
Robbie
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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Gonna tell everyone about the pushrod experience?
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Spike0180
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| Clatter wrote: |
| I dunno... I think an oil pump is going to come in pretty handy.. |
Seems optional.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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| Clatter wrote: |
| I dunno... I think an oil pump is going to come in pretty handy.. |
It's currently in the car pushing my ass around.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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I dunno... I think an oil pump is going to come in pretty handy..
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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RM1584002
Mains:
1- .0015”
2- .0015”
3- .0025”
4- .002”
Rods:
1- .0015”
2- .0015”
3- .0015”
4- .0015”
Cams:
1- .003”
2- .003”
3- .003”
Cam end play:
.002”
Cam gear backlash:
.0005”
Cam runout @ #2:
.0005”
Head combustion chamber volume: *
1- 47cc
2- 47cc
3- 47.5cc
4- 47cc
* add 4.5cc for piston dish volume
Piston dish volume:
4.5cc
Deck Height:
.065” +/- .001”
Static compression ratio:
7.5:1
Crankshaft end play (with dial indicator):
.0035"
Distributor drive axial play:
.050” (That’s the wear limit. I will add a shim when I find a small one; all my current shims will stack me there, or too tight.)
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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We have a block.
We have a NOS oil cooler.
We have a pulley.
We have heads.
Ergo, we have a long block.
Minus the oil pump…
Robbie
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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Jason, thanks for being the Chat MVP last night. After I shut it down I became the Beer MVP.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Robbie is building another engine… |
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[quote="Abscate"]I once pulled a shop,rag into the intake manifold And it came out the exhaust pipe as a T shirt. It was the wrong size though
    I take XXX large if it went "BIG".
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