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vwjetboat
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 Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:25 pm Post subject: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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Ok so little background... I built a delta 3d printer awhile back.. it worked but did not last long mechanically.. as the rails wore out.. it was more proof of concept thing that i could do it with crap around house.. it can be seen here in short vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuz0ylPg_a4
So anyway.. I am going to build another printer but a cartesian with a good size build area.. like 8" X 16".. I have all the parts pretty much and they are not going to wear out ..so investment will be low as it has to be as I am.. poooooooooooooor do to health issue..
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if I can make a run of parts.. have enough pre sold after part has been perfected as I will send to someone to check out...and refine.. if needed.. then produce a run of the parts and sell..I am talking about small to medium size parts.. Yes i know everyone is 3d printing nowadays .. but then.. they ain't me..
I also have everything to build a 3d laser scanner.. so after a learning wtf im doing i should be able to scan parts then change refine or what ever .. and...
I have almost everything for a small home foundry to melt and cast aluminum...
I have been collecting parts for awhile.. obviously.. lol
SO shoot me some ideas.. and maybe by the time i get the printer built I will know if I am on to something..
This was my original idea when I built first printer.. for income..
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67ctbug
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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If you can print rubber like materials... '67 radio knobs and dash knobs.
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vwjetboat
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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| 67ctbug wrote: |
| If you can print rubber like materials... '67 radio knobs and dash knobs. |
Picture please..
and no can not print rubber but could be printed then coated in rubber.. |
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67ctbug
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| ...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
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| He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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Print them then plasti dip them.
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vwjetboat
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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| kawfee wrote: |
| Print them then plasti dip them. |
that is what i was thinking.. or similar to get right texture and feel..
thanks for the suggestions.. |
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heimlich
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| Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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Plasti dip might come off. You could probably add some texturing to it with a piece of metal and heat.
Also, take into account the part you are making and how much the 3d material costs. Those machines are really good for prototypes.
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67ctbug
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:05 am Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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What about a flexible filament... that could give it the rubber like feel.
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| ...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:17 am Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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On the top of my list, I'd like to see stateside reproduction of
SO-42 Westfalia cabinet handles- at least the plastic part.
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vwjetboat
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:27 am Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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| so this is 2 things that nobody is making.. keep them coming.. I am even thinking things as simple as sun visor clips but stronger.. maybe aluminum.. |
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vwjetboat
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:30 am Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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I do not want to use a thread started by somebody else when this is my own thing... and those did not go to far.. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:39 am Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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| ida to idf addaptors. like the old scat #912 but it was ida to the solex witch is the same as idf but diferent stud pattern. and of corse I need some aluminum cylinders too..... hey make it to use a aluminum spool gun!!!! |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:02 am Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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We have experimented with scanning and printing fossils at the museum. Our observations so far ... the printer resolution isn't good enough yet. They can't print rounded surfaces without leaving a lot of countoured lines in the final product. I suppose one could sand and fill in the lines to get a smooth product, but then that wouldn't be an exact copy and wouldn't work for our purposes.
If you are going to do this, get the highest resolution you can. .1 mm resolution is not good enough for small smooth things like dash knobs and buttons but may be OK for brackets and thing that don't need to be smooth.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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| Q-Dog wrote: |
We have experimented with scanning and printing fossils at the museum. Our observations so far ... the printer resolution isn't good enough yet. They can't print rounded surfaces without leaving a lot of countoured lines in the final product. I suppose one could sand and fill in the lines to get a smooth product, but then that wouldn't be an exact copy and wouldn't work for our purposes.
If you are going to do this, get the highest resolution you can. .1 mm resolution is not good enough for small smooth things like dash knobs and buttons but may be OK for brackets and thing that don't need to be smooth. |
^^^ This....is the problem. That ...and available materials.
But...that being said....actually the resolution IS there....to a point...but not for cheap. I have seen some of the industrial 3-D printers....think like 6 figures plus....that have the resolution....but they still need to be used in conjunction with CNC machining, laser ablation etc...for really complex 3D shapes.
Resolution can be down to about .0015"...about half of that .1mm
But you are correct ...that when it comes down "textures"....thats really not enough.
But...yes...vwjetboat...I do think you are on to something..especially if you have a 3D scanner.
A lot of useful small structural/functional parts...that do not require advanced textures that injection molding imparts.... can be made this way. The scanner can help get the "real" shape into the system much faster than trying to work it out via solid works or inventor ...which make it really hard on the person doing the CAD work when trying to measure and then re-render fine radii and shapes in small parts.
Just be sure to be careful about what plastic types you sue for what parts. Plastics are the least generic of materials. Ray |
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vwjetboat
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:17 am Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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Q-dog.. ya the Cartesian printers have a hard time making perfect round parts.. Why I went with delta printer the first time as they are faster and make round parts pretty nicely.. but what a pain to set up..
I have always wanted to make custom dashes for cars.. one off things for that person building that custom car that can weld anything form anything but would love a custom plastic dash insert that changed the whole look.. then i saw on tv show just other day some guy printed out a rear spoiler for a camaro in 4 parts.. so seeing as I have 90% of the stuff to build a nice size Cartesian printer. while the jetboat is on hold for a few months as storm destroyed my porch and few boat parts.. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:20 am Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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Ray.. yea.. I have "STUF" as in a record turntable cameras and software .. to build a scanner for small parts.. just one of those things that needs to be built.. its pretty simple to do.. just time .. so much open source stuff now for rendering that when I started rolling this stuff in my head was not around.. now its everywhere and free ..
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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| a "foam" or something that would dissapear if you used it for casting aluminum in sand molds would be a nice item to have. and eazy to make changes too. |
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vwjetboat
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: gauging interest in having small parts made .. |
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| mark tucker wrote: |
| a "foam" or something that would dissapear if you used it for casting aluminum in sand molds would be a nice item to have. and eazy to make changes too. |
they make plenty of low temp filaments now just for that.. I have 60 lbs of casting sand in the shed still in the ebay boxes wrapped up .. have fire bricks.. a crucible .. so that is in plan.. but.. my new printer design.. i am working on will print as long as needed.. infinity actually or as long of a 14 inch wide piece of glass how ever long i can find.. as the bed will move on rollers .. and will print either 4 items at once or 1 left and 1 right at same time.. |
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