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Dürtwagen Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:33 am Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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I’ll say this again, the distributor is the issue..... has nothing to do with the way I build engines.. I’m not buying my a 120 dollar Bosch dizz just so the marks line up for cosmetic reasons.. and no, I’m keeping this car for a very long time _________________ 1974 VW baja bug
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Dürtwagen Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2016 Posts: 271 Location: Cottonwood, Arizona
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:40 am Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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Also, the shaft IS in fact going to stay correct. The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel. Shaft orientation will be correct for whoever pulls the dizz next _________________ 1974 VW baja bug
1979 Mercedes Benz 300D |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2002 Posts: 4394 Location: Brew City
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:43 am Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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Dürtwagen wrote: |
Also, the shaft IS in fact going to stay correct. The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel. Shaft orientation will be correct for whoever pulls the dizz next |
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Dürtwagen Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2016 Posts: 271 Location: Cottonwood, Arizona
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:18 am Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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[email protected] wrote: |
Dürtwagen wrote: |
Also, the shaft IS in fact going to stay correct. The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel. Shaft orientation will be correct for whoever pulls the dizz next |
Don't worry about it. You are all good. |
Awesome _________________ 1974 VW baja bug
1979 Mercedes Benz 300D |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31268 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:25 am Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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Dale M. wrote: |
By the book.... It less confusing if you have to work on it at some later date and distributor orientation agrees with shop manual... Also if you sell engine/car, its less confusing to new owner...
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Like Glenn I lay distributor drive first (locked down with distributor) to get correct orientation then lay crank ...
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Like both these guys, last year when I rebuilt my 1600cc engine I also installed and locked down the distributor/distributor shaft BEFORE I bolted on the 2nd half of the case. Easy peasy. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7179 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:04 am Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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At the end of the day it doesnt really matter as long as it sits correct.
I also do it as almost the last thing.
You have less to worry about upon case assembly, and
you don´t have to worry about gear teething when you rotate the engine during assembly.
Finally it is easier to determine the correct thickness of shims under the drive if you do it last. And no, the 2 shims stated in the "the book" is not always correct. Far from it actually.
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:32 am Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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Dürtwagen wrote: |
The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel. |
The location of #1 on the distributor is not the same on all distributors.
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Dürtwagen Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2016 Posts: 271 Location: Cottonwood, Arizona
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:48 am Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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Glenn wrote: |
Dürtwagen wrote: |
The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel. |
The location of #1 on the distributor is not the same on all distributors.
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The dizz on the left looks oriented exactly like mine _________________ 1974 VW baja bug
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Dürtwagen Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2016 Posts: 271 Location: Cottonwood, Arizona
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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Also I noticed, when the rotor is pointing to the tdc mark, the points aren’t open... the rotor is almost done with its pass before the points even start to open, is this normal? My other vw was upgraded with electronic ignition in the past so I can’t really reference anything _________________ 1974 VW baja bug
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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for some people it's the end of the world as they know it, and it may never run... .For me I dont give a shit, Im smarter than the dist drive shaft. |
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7179 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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mark tucker wrote: |
Im smarter than the dist drive shaft. |
Really????
Sorry. I couldnt leave that on its own |
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10399 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:01 am Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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mark tucker wrote: |
for some people it's the end of the world as they know it, and it may never run... .For me I dont give a shit, Im smarter than the dist drive shaft. |
Watch out, those gosh darn distributor drive shafts can be so dang complicated! _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
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UK Luke 72 Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2011 Posts: 2867 Location: Little Britain
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Dürtwagen Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2016 Posts: 271 Location: Cottonwood, Arizona
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:00 am Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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sb001 wrote: |
mark tucker wrote: |
for some people it's the end of the world as they know it, and it may never run... .For me I dont give a shit, Im smarter than the dist drive shaft. |
Watch out, those gosh darn distributor drive shafts can be so dang complicated! |
....... really .? _________________ 1974 VW baja bug
1979 Mercedes Benz 300D |
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Hustlers67 Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2011 Posts: 263 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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I had to install mine 180 out on my recent build as the distributor vacuum can interfered with the carb linkage. Dizzy is the Mallory unilite and the linkage is the vintage speed / carrerra centre pull "best ever" linkage. Now my vacuum can faces towards the back of the car. Test fit your bits! |
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Dürtwagen Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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Distributor ended up being a type 3. Not a big deal as long as it works _________________ 1974 VW baja bug
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 33875 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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It's the 21st century, we should not discriminate on the basis of orientation. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12632 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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I bought a new distributor last spring to install in place of a warn out 009 and had exactly the same issue. I just relocated the plug wires on the cap and didn't give it a second thought. |
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Lingwendil Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2009 Posts: 3987 Location: Antioch, California, a block from the hood
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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Glenn wrote: |
Dürtwagen wrote: |
Trust me, I’m a “by the books” kind of person |
When i build an engine, the distributor drive is the first thing i install. I then stuff a "dummy" distributor in so it don't move.Next is the crank and then the cam. So that way everything is indexed correctly. |
This is the best application for the 009, and Chinese copies, in my experience.
And I do them just like the Bentley says too.
Glenn wrote: |
Dürtwagen wrote: |
The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel. |
The location of #1 on the distributor is not the same on all distributors.
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? |
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Mine ended up 180 out....for cosmetics, I took the drive tang off the bottom of the distributor...turned it 180...put it back on. As far as if it ever gets sold to someone else? Think of it as a puzzle....eventually they'll figure it out _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
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