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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

I’ll say this again, the distributor is the issue..... has nothing to do with the way I build engines.. I’m not buying my a 120 dollar Bosch dizz just so the marks line up for cosmetic reasons.. and no, I’m keeping this car for a very long time
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

Also, the shaft IS in fact going to stay correct. The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel. Shaft orientation will be correct for whoever pulls the dizz next
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

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Also, the shaft IS in fact going to stay correct. The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel. Shaft orientation will be correct for whoever pulls the dizz next


Don't worry about it. You are all good.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

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Also, the shaft IS in fact going to stay correct. The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel. Shaft orientation will be correct for whoever pulls the dizz next


Don't worry about it. You are all good.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

Dale M. wrote:
By the book.... It less confusing if you have to work on it at some later date and distributor orientation agrees with shop manual... Also if you sell engine/car, its less confusing to new owner...
Dale


This.


Dale M. wrote:
Like Glenn I lay distributor drive first (locked down with distributor) to get correct orientation then lay crank ...
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Like both these guys, last year when I rebuilt my 1600cc engine I also installed and locked down the distributor/distributor shaft BEFORE I bolted on the 2nd half of the case. Easy peasy.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

At the end of the day it doesnt really matter as long as it sits correct.

I also do it as almost the last thing.
You have less to worry about upon case assembly, and
you don´t have to worry about gear teething when you rotate the engine during assembly.
Finally it is easier to determine the correct thickness of shims under the drive if you do it last. And no, the 2 shims stated in the "the book" is not always correct. Far from it actually.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

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The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel.

The location of #1 on the distributor is not the same on all distributors.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

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The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel.

The location of #1 on the distributor is not the same on all distributors.

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The dizz on the left looks oriented exactly like mine
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

Also I noticed, when the rotor is pointing to the tdc mark, the points aren’t open... the rotor is almost done with its pass before the points even start to open, is this normal? My other vw was upgraded with electronic ignition in the past so I can’t really reference anything
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

for some people it's the end of the world as they know it, and it may never run... .For me I dont give a shit, Im smarter than the dist drive shaft.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:28 pm    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

mark tucker wrote:
Im smarter than the dist drive shaft.

Really???? Shocked Laughing
Sorry. I couldnt leave that on its own
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

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for some people it's the end of the world as they know it, and it may never run... .For me I dont give a shit, Im smarter than the dist drive shaft.


Laughing Laughing Laughing

Watch out, those gosh darn distributor drive shafts can be so dang complicated! Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

I kinda try to set it right... Not unheard of though for me to have distributors pointing all manor of angles though Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

sb001 wrote:
mark tucker wrote:
for some people it's the end of the world as they know it, and it may never run... .For me I dont give a shit, Im smarter than the dist drive shaft.


Laughing Laughing Laughing

Watch out, those gosh darn distributor drive shafts can be so dang complicated! Razz


....... really .?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

I had to install mine 180 out on my recent build as the distributor vacuum can interfered with the carb linkage. Dizzy is the Mallory unilite and the linkage is the vintage speed / carrerra centre pull "best ever" linkage. Now my vacuum can faces towards the back of the car. Test fit your bits!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

Distributor ended up being a type 3. Not a big deal as long as it works
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

It's the 21st century, we should not discriminate on the basis of orientation.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

I bought a new distributor last spring to install in place of a warn out 009 and had exactly the same issue. I just relocated the plug wires on the cap and didn't give it a second thought.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
Dürtwagen wrote:
Trust me, I’m a “by the books” kind of person

When i build an engine, the distributor drive is the first thing i install. I then stuff a "dummy" distributor in so it don't move.Next is the crank and then the cam. So that way everything is indexed correctly.


This is the best application for the 009, and Chinese copies, in my experience. Cool

And I do them just like the Bentley says too.


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The distributor itself is what will be oriented with #1 pointing tward the flywheel.

The location of #1 on the distributor is not the same on all distributors.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: How importaint is distributor drive shaft orientation? Reply with quote

Mine ended up 180 out....for cosmetics, I took the drive tang off the bottom of the distributor...turned it 180...put it back on. As far as if it ever gets sold to someone else? Think of it as a puzzle....eventually they'll figure it out
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