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[Digger89L]

Perhaps some other members can chime in and convince the guy who's advertising this bug for sale that it is NOT a 1965 model ...my opinion based soley on the size of the rear quarter windows. He insists that its a 65 ..because (get this) ...it's registered as 65 !! (good grief). Just part of my personal mission to change the world!! www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2089820
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[67ctbug]

There is something wrong about that bug.... but I can't place my finger on it. It's definitely not a '65, but it's also got the late rear decklid and apron and a straight shifter.
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[KTPhil]

Lots of possibilities, but since he's grafted in a much later rear decklid, the waters are muddied. The chassis may or may not match the body now. "IRS tranny"? Dual port motor? Obviously a heavily modified car.

I agree the basic body looks like a pre-'65. The exception may be that some non-German built cars (Mexico, maybe Australia or in Africa) used a body that kept the older window size.

But who cares? If you want to buy it, maybe it matters, but there's no sense expending effort to try to convince a seller of what he has.

And Frankenbeetles rarely command top dollar. He's asking a lot. Unless it's exactly the hybrid you are looking for, no sense in looking at it.

[planenut]

Almost looks like a '70. Did they have the vented deck lid? Also, does the tunnel number match the tag up front?

[gt1953]

Look at the window openings. Not a USA 65 in my opinion.
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[Sharp64]

Heater controls are 65+. Frankenbug is probably titled on the later pan.

Whoever buys it will have a lot of work ahead of them undoing the nonsense that’s been done to it. Will see it as a fire sale in a few years or sold off for parts. I look at something like this and if he cares that little that he puts late fenders, decklid and apron on an early car, what other atrocities has he hidden under all that primer?
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[Helfen]

There was a guy that lived in the same apartment building I lived in Hermosa Beach Ca. in 1972. This guy had a 67 Beetle in Java Green. The car was a 6 volt that had the 1958-1964 body and a 1200 40hp. I found out from the owner that it was a 67 Mexican Beetle.
I have a friend that lives in Pismo Beach Ca. who's father was a VW dealer in Hamburg Germany and he gave her a new 67 beetle to go to school. She shipped the Beetle to the port of Los Angeles Ca. so she would have a car while she went to UCLA. Well she still has the car and it's a 67 6V. 1300.
Point is, there are many possibilities. Don't get me started on 1200 "A's" and Brazilian cars.

[hitest]

He's got more problems than we can help solve here. Condition: Excellent? Ready for paint? Let him bleed out in the whines where it belongs.
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[bluebus86]

Bumper mounting holes front and rear appear to be the post 67 type (squared off style bumper)
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[slo356]

It is possible that the pre-65 body is sitting on a '65 pan.

The VIN number which is stamped on the pan/chassis, legally determines the year of the car, not the body or engine number. A longtime ago the year of all cars was determined by the engine serial number…this was really confusing when people started swapping engines. Forgot the year but the manufacturers, with the urging of the government, switched to the chassis number as to determine the model year.

So, it could be legally a '65...
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[Helfen]

Not always:
https://images.craigslist.org/00000_lDxovoTQk7B_1200x900.jpg

https://images.craigslist.org/00Q0Q_f9qGnLirVMw_1200x900.jpg

https://images.craigslist.org/00d0d_iaN0d0p1yg3_1200x900.jpg

[Aussiebug]

The floor pan is 68 or earlier (the heater vents moved to under the door in 69).
The rear mud guards are 68 or later (bumper mounting slots).
The 4-slot engine lid is 74 or later, and wont fit on a pre 68 body without a lot of mods.
No rear quarter vents so the body is pre 72.
If the fuel filler has a finger indent, it's a 68 body. If it has no finger indent, it's a 69-71 body.

Could be a 68-71 body on a 65 pan.
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[glutamodo]

One thing I notice on the body is that there are 4 screw holes for the door hinges. VW stopped doing that on German made models near the end of April, 1962. Not sure if/when that change was made outside of Germany though.
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[60ragtop]

hodge podge for sure. Has the hole next to the ashtray for choke cable, has holes for grab handle and no washer squirter.
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[Rome]

Pan is a '71 or '72: Late heater control knobs ('65 and a few years later would have round black ball knobs), wide "T"-profile seat tracks for only those 2 years, straight shifter ('68 and later), late shifter base with the upturned front and rear edges. The 5-bolt drums in front would be from a '66 or '67 balljoint stub axle. Rear 5-bolt drums appear to not have the ribbed drums which started in '65. Possibly Thing drums? '72 engine lid would be a benefit for a dual-port engine with the 4 rows of cooling slots. A late apron and late engine lid are an unusual modification for an early car; maybe the car had rear collision damage and the seller had these solid parts on hand?

[eric arnold]

to all this is the owner of this car and not one of you have looked at more then the pics , i bet none of you can or know how to build a car or a motor , you all love to write , but i bet you dont even own tools or have the skills , i have been in the vw world long before some of you were born , with that , you have a nice day

[Zundfolge1432]

[60ragtop]

yep none of us know anything about VW's , whether rebuilding a bug or a motor but we can spot a Frankenstein beetle with just a few obscure pics
But are handy with the key board.
All zund's tools are probably borrowed.
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[panicman]

Mr. Arnold, may I suggest a book to you? It's a pretty quick read, and a classic to boot:

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