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allsidius Samba Member
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MDKG Samba Member
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Holy... ! I am almost tempted to let my copy in perfect condition go for that amount...almost.. ! Interesting; my feeling is that not many other printed VW related items like brochures and other books are showing the same increase in value. |
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splitjunkie Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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I don't remember how much I paid for mine but it was right after the number 6 thread started. I think I paid around $50. Glad I got it when I did. _________________ Chris
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MDKG Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:29 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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Same here . |
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KTPhil Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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Great price relative to recent offers. Thanks for the notice.
Amazon shows several used at or near this price, plus a few much higher, and new... nearly $1000! |
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allsidius Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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KTPhil wrote: |
Great price relative to recent offers. Thanks for the notice.
Amazon shows several used at or near this price, plus a few much higher, and new... nearly $1000! |
I actually saw a couple at above 2k! The most expensive on amazon now is $600.
This is one sad result of Amazon and Ebay making items like this available to the whole world at the klick of a mouse. Supply and demand. Yesteryear, you had to scour every catalog of antique bookshops, and if you were lucky you could find it after a year of search. But the price used to be less than new for such new editions. I cannot remember seeing newer books like this go through the roof in the same way. _________________ 1973 1303S w sunroof Click to view image
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GArBa Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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I bought my first beetle books from the oldest and most respected (and still to this day, the only) automotive-only bookstore in Milan, the Libreria dell'Automobile, whose owner (Mr.Giorgio Nada) also runs a motor-themed publishing house. It was an emotion to enter there and let my eyes run on the wooden shelves along the books, rigurously placed in alphabetic order by marque. I remember Alfa Romeo and Ferrari had quite a lot of space, but any marque was there, and if there still wasn't a book on it, Mr.Nada was always about to publish one.
I bought there my now prized 80s VW-museum catalog in german language as well as many other books on other car marques of my interest.
well "birth of the beetle" was the first I bought online. Because it was something like 5 euros cheaper. I don't think it's for the good or the bad, it's just a new way to sell. This year I found the complete "Der Kaefer" series (a NOS series can go for thousand of euros), as well as the last edition of "volkswagens of the world" both for human-being fitting prices, after literally years of scouting on ebay.
the internet lets people know that a book is around so demand rises up quickly, but you still have to do that sleuth work to find out-of-print editions. and when "volkswagen of the world" arrived at my door from an english bookshop, as soon as I unwrapped it I smelled the typical "old bookstore fragrance" I used to smell as a kid in the Libreria dell'Automobile.
technology tweaks our lives a bit, but we are still humans. _________________ cars:
'97 type 1 1600i
'14 type AA Seat Mii (sadly dead after 270.000 km)
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notchboy Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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Why is this book better best than the several historical takes I read out of several book over the last couple decades?
More in depth? Just curious to know why you guys think its great. _________________
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Splitdog Samba Split Personality
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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Complete and thorough telling of the story of the early prototypes and following them through the years, actually following the car numbers and what happened to them. Detailed information on the tests, and the who's and what's. _________________ CH³NO²
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splitjunkie Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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No other book even comes close. _________________ Chris
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theastronaut Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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I still have the copy my mom bought me when I was a kid. _________________ Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exist and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough."
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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allsidius wrote: |
KTPhil wrote: |
Great price relative to recent offers. Thanks for the notice.
Amazon shows several used at or near this price, plus a few much higher, and new... nearly $1000! |
I actually saw a couple at above 2k! The most expensive on amazon now is $600.
This is one sad result of Amazon and Ebay making items like this available to the whole world at the klick of a mouse. Supply and demand. Yesteryear, you had to scour every catalog of antique bookshops, and if you were lucky you could find it after a year of search. But the price used to be less than new for such new editions. I cannot remember seeing newer books like this go through the roof in the same way. |
Sort of but mostly there are sellers on Amazon that list things for stupid amounts to see if they sell. I've seen this with several other books too and found them from other sellers or elsewhere for a fraction of the price. _________________ How to Post Photos
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Grant Reiling Samba Slow-Change Artist
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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EverettB wrote: |
allsidius wrote: |
KTPhil wrote: |
Great price relative to recent offers. Thanks for the notice.
Amazon shows several used at or near this price, plus a few much higher, and new... nearly $1000! |
I actually saw a couple at above 2k! The most expensive on amazon now is $600.
This is one sad result of Amazon and Ebay making items like this available to the whole world at the klick of a mouse. Supply and demand. Yesteryear, you had to scour every catalog of antique bookshops, and if you were lucky you could find it after a year of search. But the price used to be less than new for such new editions. I cannot remember seeing newer books like this go through the roof in the same way. |
Perhaps unrelated, though I followed the link and (finally) bought myself a copy of this landmark book...Only to be later dismayed by the ensuing sellers' message: "I'm sorry but the book sold on another web site 17 minutes before you purchased the book. I was away from home when this occurred and had no way to remove this listing. I will immediately refund your payment. Once again I am sorry. Thank you for your understanding.
For whatever it's worth; she did issue a refund as stated...though still a lost opportunity...so, the hunt continues.
Birth Of The Beetle By Chris Barber 2003 Hardcover"
Sort of but mostly there are sellers on Amazon that list things for stupid amounts to see if they sell. I've seen this with several other books too and found them from other sellers or elsewhere for a fraction of the price. |
_________________ 1952 Azure Blue 12G (LHD Deluxe 3-fold sunroof Sedan).
"What you really know is possible in your heart is possible.
We make it possible by our will.
What we imagine in our minds becomes our world. That’s just one of many things I have learned from water."
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allsidius Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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Grant Reiling wrote: |
Perhaps unrelated, though I followed the link and (finally) bought myself a copy of this landmark book...Only to be later dismayed by the ensuing sellers' message: "I'm sorry but the book sold on another web site 17 minutes before you purchased the book. I was away from home when this occurred and had no way to remove this listing. I will immediately refund your payment. Once again I am sorry. Thank you for your understanding.
For whatever it's worth; she did issue a refund as stated...though still a lost opportunity...so, the hunt continues.
Birth Of The Beetle By Chris Barber 2003 Hardcover"
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That is truly disappointing. I would raise a complaint against the seller on Ebay, I do not think this is allowed, unless clearly stated in the description. I have found the Ebay claims service helpful sometimes, although real tricky to get in touch with. I assume Ebay wants their sellers to deliver what they offer. You will probably not get the book, but he will possibly receive a warning from Ebay. _________________ 1973 1303S w sunroof Click to view image
1978 1303 convertible (sold)Click to view image
1966 1300 RIPClick to view image
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MDKG Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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GArBa wrote: |
....This year I found the complete "Der Kaefer" series (a NOS series can go for thousand of euros).....
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Seriously? You mean the series by Etzold? I have all 4 and bought them about 25 years ago. If I do a search now they come up for 20-30 euros each not thousands...would have been a good investment though ! |
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Mif Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:19 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/152740480219
I spotted this on eBay uk yesterday if it’s any help to anyone? |
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Grant Reiling Samba Slow-Change Artist
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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Yes indeed; thanks for posting this mif; bid placed...wish me luck. _________________ 1952 Azure Blue 12G (LHD Deluxe 3-fold sunroof Sedan).
"What you really know is possible in your heart is possible.
We make it possible by our will.
What we imagine in our minds becomes our world. That’s just one of many things I have learned from water."
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favguy Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:31 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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Yeah, thanks for that Mif, now everyone on here knows about it, it's sure to stay a baragin lol! |
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Grant Reiling Samba Slow-Change Artist
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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favguy wrote: |
Yeah, thanks for that Mif, now everyone on here knows about it, it's sure to stay a baragin lol! |
Precisely why I got it elsewhere. _________________ 1952 Azure Blue 12G (LHD Deluxe 3-fold sunroof Sedan).
"What you really know is possible in your heart is possible.
We make it possible by our will.
What we imagine in our minds becomes our world. That’s just one of many things I have learned from water."
Misaru Emoto
The Hidden Messages in Water |
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kdf38 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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I have an unopened German copy if anyone has an unopened to very good English version to trade.
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