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elpres Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2010 Posts: 321 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:14 am Post subject: Ignition switch |
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Hi, regarding my 75 latebay doka, should there be juice on all ignition switch wires, when cranking the engine?
I’m trying to find out why there is no headlight power. _________________ Jakob |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Ignition switch |
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The headlights are powered by the black/yellow wire (circuit #X), it cuts out while cranking but gets power when the key is in the run position. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Ignition switch |
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It's very possible that the "accessory" position of the switch is bad. This circuit was used as a "load reduction" when in the start position so that no power goes to the accessories (head lights, wipers, blower motor (in later cars.). _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
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elpres Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2010 Posts: 321 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Ignition switch |
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Thanks guys. Right now I’m trying to get all the electric things to work. There is No engine in it. So I just put the wires together in the back. And it dident go AS expected when i turned the key. Ill investigate further, and have a closer look at the ignition switch. _________________ Jakob |
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elpres Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2010 Posts: 321 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Ignition switch |
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The ign switch seems to be faulty.
Just to get on with the work, I shorted the 4 wires going into the ign switch.
Is this alright? I’m asking because I thought this setup would simulate cranking the engine. But it’s the only way I’m having power to the headlight and side indicators at the same time. If I only short 3 of the wires, I either have power to the side indicators or power to the headlights. Any pointers? _________________ Jakob |
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Wasted youth Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2012 Posts: 5134 Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:04 am Post subject: Re: Ignition switch |
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My few experiences in shorting out wires that are meant to be plugged into a component usually became an irritating and sometimes expensive event.
The best way I have found to deal with what you describe is to POWER DOWN everything, break out the Ideal Wire Lables and my home-made continuity tester. Circuit by circuit, with line diagram and notepad within reach, I make discoveries with little risk.
Put on some of your favorite music... or maybe some earplugs if line diagrams cause dizziness... and commit to the time it will take. Even with that, you are not guranteed. The last circuit that defeated me was the key buzzer in my 1973 bus. I still have not deduced why I cannot get that circuit to operate correctly.
And then there are idiocies which are not our fault. Ask me about the brand new steering coupler that I finally discovered actually conducts electricity. |
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elpres Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2010 Posts: 321 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:55 am Post subject: Re: Ignition switch |
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Wasted youth wrote: |
My few experiences in shorting out wires that are meant to be plugged into a component usually became an irritating and sometimes expensive event.
The best way I have found to deal with what you describe is to POWER DOWN everything, break out the Ideal Wire Lables and my home-made continuity tester. Circuit by circuit, with line diagram and notepad within reach, I make discoveries with little risk.
Put on some of your favorite music... or maybe some earplugs if line diagrams cause dizziness... and commit to the time it will take. Even with that, you are not guranteed. The last circuit that defeated me was the key buzzer in my 1973 bus. I still have not deduced why I cannot get that circuit to operate correctly.
And then there are idiocies which are not our fault. Ask me about the brand new steering coupler that I finally discovered actually conducts electricity. |
I agere in your points of View. The thing is that my time for Playing around with the doka is very limited. And i hate to get “stuck” While waiting for parts.
But I did find a diagram and is now trying to figure it out. _________________ Jakob |
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elpres Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2010 Posts: 321 Location: Denmark
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elpres Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2010 Posts: 321 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:42 am Post subject: Re: Ignition switch |
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When ignition is on, should all lights(Low and High beam)and other equipment work? _________________ Jakob
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:56 am Post subject: Re: Ignition switch |
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The current tracks are far superior for troubleshooting. A couple of hints
Everything on a Bus grounds somewhere, that's the big yellow track at bottom.
Sxx denotes a fuse, number xx
Tyy denotes a connector, number yy. You will find a description and location of each connector in text.
The current track numbers guide you to the component in question
You have to translate the colours into German, like gelb for yellow _________________ .ssS! |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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