china steel...japan steel....whoose best....

[mark tucker]

well a enormusly large japan steel company just let the cat out of the bag so to speak...and it has a shit load of problems... for over 10 years that have been fudging on the steel grades&puritys&QC& specs & such...for oh somuch specialized steel products set to well over....500 manufacturing companys...including thier own nuclear power plants and aero space manufactures both in japan and around the world...... im sure gladd I get the china cranks&rods in my motors
They are in a world of shit, the primminster was crying on the interview...real tears.the company head looked like he was about to keel over, oh somany heads are going to roll....I hope that have some good swards made before the scam so it's a clean cut. good thing my wifes honda element is a 2005 and made in marrysville ohio..... for std steel products this maens squat, but for specialized items like....AEROSPACE.....and nuclear plants...it aint good. I wonder whoo the whistle blower was...or who checked the steel and found it wasent up to spec...

[KTPhil]

[nsracing]

Anything Chinese, other than take-out food, I would not choose first if I can help it.

Japanese stuff have always been associated w/ quality work.

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[Letterman7]

The US purchases most of it's steel from overseas - very little of it manufactured here stays here. My neighbor (rest his soul) worked for 30 years at Lukens Steel here in PA. All the scrap that was brought to the refinery to be melted into ingots was sold to .. China. Anything produced here for the most part goes overseas, save for the odd military contract. Raw steel that is used in your Honda, Mark, is brought in from overseas. Who knows what the actual material content really is. Blame it on the government and trade unions for not keeping "American" steel on American soils.

[mukluk]

[hitest]

For well over 10 years the U.S. has been camouflaging our propensity to exercise utter blind faith in Japanese and other Far Eastern manufacturing countries while hailing them as superior to American. It is we who made the chicken. We force the competition to create standards with which Americans will pay.
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[williamM]

just google "Kobe Steel scandel" They admitted to falsifying test results in copper, alum. and steel- the guys running the bullet train over there are shitting twinkies-
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[Zundfolge1432]

[TDCTDI]

This explains Toyota's truck frame fiasco.
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[janerick3]

First-generation Nissan Pathfinders (thru '95) have the same frame rot issues as the Tacoma, just not as well-publicized. Inspectors in the rust belt know to poke at the rear frame arches and reject for rust. The first-gen XTerras (pre-'05) are built on the same platform--don't know if Nissan fixed the rot problem with them.
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[raygreenwood]

Actually....and I have read this before snd heard it in numerous interviews as well......US steel production has remained largely unchanged....since 1969....until this year.

Its mostly made in high efficiency mini mills now. The same volume and type of production can be made without all of those huge and widely scattered blast furnaces....sadly.


What makes the difference is that our usage....and the world usage of steel....has increased 100 fold easily since 1969. From another graph I found somewhere dated 2017....I will look for it....US production is 5% of total world production of steel....and China is 51%.


https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/steel-production

So its untrue for the most part thst US steel manufacturing has dropped compared to the past. However it is true that we do not make most of what we use.

I think the other chart noted that we impirt about 71% of what we use.

We export a good chunk of what we make.....because its specific type, quality or shape.....or perhaps people buy what we e,port because they are closer to us than China. Shipping you know...... Ray

[williamM]

mid to late 70's they were getting every pellet Australia could produce from the Robe river project- or Hammerly mountain- Now both those mountains are holes in the ground-

Maybe carbon fiber is going to take over completely??
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