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mrsoup Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2017 Posts: 2 Location: Hoosier
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:39 pm Post subject: Convertible top material questions- 1962 |
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I have a 1962 Beetle convertible that needs a new top. I am having a difficult time finding information regarding what is correct material. Did VW use canvas or vinyl for the '62 model year? Were the color options either white or black only? Is there a link that I am missing to access convertible specific information?
I am also looking for a good source for a quality top kit, any recommendations will be appreciated. Thanks |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: Convertible top material questions- 1962 |
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Both my '60 and '62 convertibles came with Haartz pinpoint vinyl new from the factory- blue match on my gulf blue car, green on Sargasso green.
Compare how Chuck's Convertibles treats these cars vs. West Coast Classic Restoration. They are just two of vert authorities. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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mrsoup Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2017 Posts: 2 Location: Hoosier
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:56 am Post subject: Re: Convertible top material questions- 1962 |
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Thanks for the response-
So many were color matched to the exterior color of the car, interesting
What would be correct for my Ruby Red? |
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rcooled Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2008 Posts: 2507 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: Convertible top material questions- 1962 |
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mrsoup wrote: |
What would be correct for my Ruby Red? |
I looked high & low for a supplier that could match the red vinyl cover on my Ruby Red '63 rag. The only place that had the right material was WCCR, so they stitched up a cover. The quality was uncharacteristically poor, so I went with black Stayfast canvas from Sewfine instead. Excellent quality piece, BTW.
If you're not going strictly stock, I think a black canvas top would look great on a Ruby 'vert. _________________ '63 Ragtop (current)
'65 Ghia coupe (totaled)
'67 Ghia convertible (current)
'69.5 Ghia convertible and
'62, '63, '65, '69 Bugs (all long gone) |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Convertible top material questions- 1962 |
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mrsoup wrote: |
Thanks for the response-
So many were color matched to the exterior color of the car, interesting
What would be correct for my Ruby Red? |
One thing you could do is match in the interior- if it's grey, you know...
Check local shops too- the older the better. I'm looking for gray vinyl for my ragtop- and sure enough, VWsunroofs.com just ran out last year. But I know I WILL find some, and having my sunroof taped open for the last year is gettin' old.
PS- I just checked vwsunroofs- and that's a negative. WCCR does have the gray for me- just as red for you before. I still want to give them a shot at the sunroof cover. Perhaps you could call and talk to them about red- and see if they are having better results lately? _________________
EverettB wrote: |
I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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rcooled Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2008 Posts: 2507 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: Convertible top material questions- 1962 |
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hitest wrote: |
WCCR does have the gray for me- just as red for you before. I still want to give them a shot at the sunroof cover. |
Although they consistently seem to turn out a high-quality product, I was very disappointed in the sunroof cover WCCR made for me. After waiting a few weeks for delivery, I finally called to see what happened to my order and was told that it apparently was never processed. Great! The cover that eventually showed up was still inside-out like it just came off the machine and required some trimming to eliminate overlapping material. There were no holes for the studs in the rear hold-down and no slots along the sides for the three bows. Worst of all, the damn thing didn't even fit! The front header and rear hold-down plate would not fit in the pockets. The cover simply was not wide enough and I ended up ripping a seam while trying to coax the cover over the front header. I just threw it all in the trash and ordered a black Stayfast canvas cover from Sewfine. It was very nicely made and was a breeze to install...no trimming and no holes to cut. Sewfine does list both a light and medium grey vinyl for upholstery material...maybe they could make up a sunroof cover out of it for you.
Here's a couple of other places to try for the grey vinyl you're looking for. If you can supply the material, it might be easier to find a local shop to make up the cover.
https://www.smsautofabrics.com/
http://www.veteranco.com/productindex.html _________________ '63 Ragtop (current)
'65 Ghia coupe (totaled)
'67 Ghia convertible (current)
'69.5 Ghia convertible and
'62, '63, '65, '69 Bugs (all long gone) |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Convertible top material questions- 1962 |
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I've seen first-hand their covers are super tight. A friend's '52 ragtop was so tight to open everyone KNEW something would tear or a handle would break! They ship them inside-out because that's how they are easiest to install on the headers. If you roll them onto the header the sewn seam automatically stays to one side of the header or the other (like a pillow case). Seat upholstery is shipped I/O from WCCR and installed the same way. Everything I've received from Lenny requires a lot of steam.
WCCR sell their kits primarily to upholstery shops but TMI and Sewfine are definitely a little more end-user friendly. I turn their kits inside-out as well- just to make install easier. Sadly, Sewfine also does not have or offer the right Haartz pinpoint vinyl for the anthracite roof. I may resort to canvas- but it goes against every fiber of my being.
Thanks for the tip of veteranco! I've never seen those folks. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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Brunofld Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2018 Posts: 1 Location: Lisboa
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Convertible top material questions- 1962 |
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Hi Everyone, I don't know if this is the right place to post this questions but let's try. I have a 1962 Sedan Lomousine , the original color was Pearl White , than my grandfather painted it with pacific blue and now I'm looking forward to paint it with a GULF BLUE L390. My doubt is in this colour. On the Technical section of TheSamba, the image for gulf blue is a really bright blue, really close to pacific blue but in fact the table shows a huge diffence between them.
This is the table for 1962 Sedan
This is the Image for Gulf blue , on technical section
This is the Image for Gulf blue in other places:
This last one is the closest I can find for the colour preview on the table , but it isn't not even close to the image that shows up in that table (first bug).
Can anyone help me understanding and identifying the correct colours for each image ? What is the true L390 ?
Many thanks |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Convertible top material questions- 1962 |
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You really can't compare two photos of repainted gulf blue cars and choose the closest. You need to look at original cars- type 3s included and get a round of cars to compare. There are tons in the galleries.
Both my gulf blue cars are more similar to the second photo. I would characterize it as having a drop of yellow to bring a hint of green to the blue- making it slightly greener than a dove blue as seen on bugs and buses. Further, the top photo looks like it is clear coated- which will always skew the base color in most lights. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Convertible top material questions- 1962 |
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Here's Joel's beautiful OG GB beetle from the l390 gallery:
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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bugmandave Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005 Posts: 642 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Convertible top material questions- 1962 |
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Ruby vert would have either a black or grey top. Look on WW color charts for correct info. Mine was canvas from factory
_________________ '63 Karmann Cabriolet L456 Rubin (Ruby Red)
'71 Westfalia campmobile tourist delivery
January '59 SWR panel
'63 Karmann Cabriolet L54 Poppy Red |
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BryanNunes Samba Member
Joined: November 19, 2010 Posts: 88 Location: Hollister
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