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jgilchrist Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2014 Posts: 5 Location: Cardiff
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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I love this thread. If you want to get an interesting perspective read Victor Davis Hanson. He's not an ideologue, but very well thought out and an exceptional communicator (when it comes to the future of California, or lack of it).
victorhanson.com
Jeff G.
Thanks for your help with Bus advice Steve. I owe you one. Please don't go silent. _________________ Jeff Gilchrist |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 64994 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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hazetguy Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2001 Posts: 10653
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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Well, since anything goes in this thread....
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 35391 Location: Retired so can be anywhere now - NorCal
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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Abscate - would buy you lunch anytime, lots to discuss other than politics.
FL is beautiful, my folks lived there for many years in the panhandle when they couldn't stand San Diego anymore (SD really was once like a tropical resort before it got too crowded). Really blue skies too in FL. I loved Miami when I worked there for awhile in the mid-1990's. Have a replacement MDX off lease coming in from there next week thru Acura to replace the one that was totaled last week. Not a flood car but will look carefully. Regardless it will have a warranty until 2022 and another 70,000 miles so if it did have any hidden issues it will be Honda's problem. I would consider retirement in some parts of Florida - mostly the panhandle. Understand that the state sport is trying to hit palmetto bugs while they fly by - PULL - whoosh bang...
And - with all the shells in the pavement it is really easy to make a bus look like it has more power than it does - unintentionally spinning the tires after it rains. My 1971 bay made many happy uneventful trips between Upland CA and Fort Walton Beach FL . _________________ American Standard Snorkeling Terrier
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Abscate  Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 15598 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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I agree, enough about California, lets talk about Florida (my state), Americas phallus. What's not to like? |
Hurricanes, gators, and being the Bulldogs bitch yesterday?
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babysnakes Samba Member

Joined: August 19, 2008 Posts: 6624
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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I agree, enough about California, lets talk about Florida (my state), Americas phallus. What's not to like? |
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Abscate  Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 15598 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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I've got pretty polar opposite views to you Steve, but don't take the least offense at hearing you out. What's good about civil discussion on these boards vs Facebook is the absence of complete kooks and the shared interest in VWs which breeds mutual respect.
The change and growth in CA is shocking and disruptive to all who live there I'm sure. _________________ .ssS! |
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 35391 Location: Retired so can be anywhere now - NorCal
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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so sorry and apologies to anyone offended. Maybe I should have used something visual instead of trying to explain it with words.
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Hoody Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1943
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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Would one of the moderators please lock this thread! This forum has been turning into a fucking joke. Where is your favorite sub shop? Today I got my beard trimmed! There is a place on the internet for such useless drivel! Perhaps you have heard of Facebook? This forum is for working on and fixing VW Buses. Chris ok. Great! That was established pages ago. |
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 35391 Location: Retired so can be anywhere now - NorCal
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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Dear OB I am proud to be on your ignore list. 57 years here. No, most of my wealth came from other places than California. I've done a lot of traveling outside of California and the USA. San Diego is a beautiful city but living there these days one misses so many other things that makes life beautiful. We have deer, bears, raccoon, opossum, quail, pheasants, fox, wild turkey here in Citrus Heights, even coyotes, and mountain lion. The backyard is full of flowers and hummingbirds. Robins, magpies come twice a year, and doves are here all the time. We had swallowtail, monarch, and painted lady butterflies as well as the normal plethora of other species this year. Lots of tree frogs too. Lizards run the property in the summer catching bugs, and the garden grows exceptionally well where we save quite a bit of food for the year. We don't have solar but only because the period of time for the saving to pay for the cost of solar is 30 years here, and the typical solar that friends have had installed lasts 8-10 years max. Oh - and you do know that the law is being amended so you can't spin the meter backwards anymore - meaning that if you sell excess power to the utility it will be at wholesale prices but you will pay retail for the power you use at night. You can spend another $30K on battery pack that last 5 - 7 years. Lord knows where that toxic mess will go when they reach end of life. Most people don't typically think that far ahead but I am glad you can afford to throw away that much money so you have either done better than I, or have myopic vision. Most of our electric power comes from renewable hydroelectric and wind here anyway so the cost is less than you pay for SoCal Edison. The house is super insulated so we pay very little in utilities however that will change next year because the rate at the time of day when A/C does comes on will go up triple due the stupid Democrats (e.g. you and your friends) believing they can force everyone to accept their values. The state was a great place until you people started telling everyone else how to live then sending them the bill for it. _________________ American Standard Snorkeling Terrier
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SamboSamba22  Samba Member

Joined: August 06, 2015 Posts: 2693 Location: Benton, Arkansas
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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I've never been to California but I hear the weather is wonderful, and the woman are dazzlingly beautiful.
So let's make it clear, the housing expenses alone, are not the only thing out of most of our prices ranges...
Perhaps I should move out west again and live like a college student, with my lawn chair furniture. so when it comes time to truly settle down, I can move back further east and be wowed by the affordability of living and goods, I mean I did realize a drastic difference in my pocket book since moving back to Arkansas from Colorado, but I also don't smoke the tweeds anymore..
Cost of living has increased substantial amounts across the world, it's tough when folks get out of college with 80k in debt, marry with a combined income of 100k, have newer vehicles with expenses and are limited to homes no less than 150-200k unless they know construction or enjoy baths in bleach. Kids to the mix??? I have a lot to learn, please continue to teach me some useful things, old timers, really I need to know the secrets. _________________ The Bus Barn Ltd. Co.
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Clatter Samba Member

Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 5496 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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When some crotchety old curmudgeon stops eating right,
Then his bowels get backed up,
and he spends too much time inside watching the news.
What should have come out of his ass ends up in places like this forum..
The news is just another show!
If 17 people in LA die of West Nile virus, there's another 17Mil or so to carry on; the place is hardly going to be empty.
Literally one in a million..
If you don't want to get Hep A whilst in San Diego, I would suggest not sharing needles with the homeless.
One day people will wonder how we could have ever been so stupid with fossil fuels.
In the meantime, grumpy old people will grumble about change, no matter what it is.
Left-winger:
"We need a way to a sustainable, prosperous future for mankind."
Right-winger:
"I want money".
California tax dollars (us) are literally trying to save the planet.
If we can make consumerist Americans live without killing the earth,
It can work anywhere.
The surf is supposed to be 8-10' today. Low tide is at 1:30.
Where's Chris?!?!
When the rants are banned, only the banned ..er.. wait..  _________________ Bus Motor Build
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modok wrote: |
if you have the expectation that you can put mexican taxi bearings, in a brazil engine case, and put a chinese crank in it and have the right clearance...
Time to change your expectations.
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OB Bus Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2121 Location: Ocean Beach in Beautiful BLUE California
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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SGKent wrote: |
OB Bus wrote: |
If you hate California so much why do some of you still live here?
Leave.
That means more room at the beach for us. |
Been here just a short while? Like sunshine pay better than real $$? I used to surf in OB in the 1960's before people discovered it, lived in Del Cerro and went to SDSU. It got really boring down there, and the lines for everything are awful now. Love the place but would not live there again - go to north county. I understand the city is washing the streets with bleach daily now because so many people have died of hepatitis. It is also unfortunate that the sewage overflows on winter rains into Mission Bay and washes out at OB. Used to get good quantity of abalones just south of there when there were lots still around. As soon as we retire we will sell and leave - it is unfortunate but this state is not what it once was. Wait until you see the increases in the cost of gasoline, water, and electricity coming your way. And, it is people who say silly ass things like "if you don't like it leave" from ignorance are assisting in ruining this place. That pushiness is everywhere here now. Sad. |
Ah Steve. You are on my ignore list. A friend just sent me a note saying "...hey check out SGK's response to you. He trashed you with lies, as usual..."
So I'll return fire.
Have I been here "a short while"? Just been here in California 56 years. How about you?
I have plenty of real dollars. Sunshine is nice - it powers my solar panels.
I still Boogey Board in OB. And I went to SDSU also. Aztec for life -- are you?
You find San Diego boring but you love Citrus Heights? That is a stretch.
Yes we have a real homeless and Hep-A crisis. Fostered by our do-nothing Republican mayor. Bless his little red hat.
Sewage spills were a major problem before huge amounts of money were put into upgrades.
So when you retire you will "sell out and leave". Good. This implies that you lived your life and made your wealth.......where? Would that be California?
Seriously, If you can find a good place to live in a lower cost place go for it. Your dollars might go a lot farther in Missouri, Idaho or yes, even Michigan. I'll stay. It is far from perfect. But it is home. The weather is good. _________________ Larry in OB
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 35391 Location: Retired so can be anywhere now - NorCal
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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Why the middle class like Chris are cashing in and leaving California in mass. These are from this week's news:
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Health officials say more than 200 people in Los Angeles County have contracted West Nile virus this year and 17 have died.
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Death toll in California wildfires grows to 42 |
Totally preventable. Reports out today indicate that the fires which burned some 9000 homes were started by a tweaker who wanted to rob neighborhood homes, and apparently PGE wires that were not well maintained according to news articles.
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Death toll from San Diego hepatitis A outbreak rises to 19; more than 500 cases confirmed |
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The nation’s most populous state may propose a plan to ban internal combustion engines, following France and the United Kingdom, Bloomberg reported Tuesday. California Air Resources board chair Mary Nichols told the publication Gov. Jerry Brown, “has expressed an interest in barring the sale of vehicles powered by internal-combustion engines,” in that state. |
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State power regulators decided today how to divvy up the biggest electric rate hike in California history, boosting rates by as much as 80 percent for residential customers who use the most power. |
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Nearly a quarter million San Jose families and businesses will soon be asked to shell out extra for water.
With the blessing of the California Public Utilities Commission, the San Jose Water Company will raise water rates for 229,000 customers, even though they may have conserved water during the state’s historic drought. |
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OAKLAND — East Bay water customers would see rates rise 19 percent over the next two years under a proposal announced Tuesday. |
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Under Senate Bill No. 1, the gasoline tax will increase by 12 cents, from 18 cents to 30 cents per gallon, the Los Angeles Times reported after Gov. Jerry Brown signed the legislation in April. |
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The excise tax on diesel fuel will rise 20 cents, to 36 cents per gallon; the sales tax will also go up by 4 percent, to 9.75 percent, according to the Times.
As part of the legislation, motorists will also have to pay an annual vehicle fee, though that doesn't take effect until Jan. 1, 2018. The fees range from $25 for cars worth less than $5,000 to $175 for those valued at more than $60,000.
Additionally, a $100 annual fee on electric vehicles will be imposed on owners in lieu of gas taxes beginning on July 1, 2020. |
California's budget is approximately 270 billion dollars - the single payer system the democratic party are passing here will increase that to about 670 billion dollars. Guess who will pay for it - the middle class who works -
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It just goes on and on and on. That is why people who retire are mostly leaving. They know what is coming. Those who work for a living will be asked to pay the bills of those who choose not to work. _________________ American Standard Snorkeling Terrier
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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Tram wrote: |
Abscate wrote: |
Drove through Flint MI this week.
Your problems in CA are small. |
But more expensive.
Real estate prices for Victorian mansions are great in Flint and Detroit. You could buy five of them for the price of a shoebox in California.
Problem is... it's Flint and Detroit... |
California is terrific. Now that the wealthy Californians have inflated my real estate in Portland I'm thinking of selling and moving to lovely Stockton,CA I hear it's a safe community, the weathers nice, and there is lots to do So you see Clatter. You can come back to California
Ironic. _________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Damn that Xevin...  |
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Clatter Samba Member

Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 5496 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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Wasted youth wrote: |
Clatter wrote: |
...Spend a summer in AZ before you commit. |
And Williams Junction or Flagstaff don't count!  |
So true!
Sedona may as well be part of CA.
Isn't it in Marin County?  _________________ Bus Motor Build
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if you have the expectation that you can put mexican taxi bearings, in a brazil engine case, and put a chinese crank in it and have the right clearance...
Time to change your expectations.
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Abscate  Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 15598 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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Im retiring in place - thats right - people are nice, stuff is cheap, real estate will never kill you, people will do stuff for you for a decent living wage, not priced to the nearest Wells Fargo banker
Im 19 minutes from front door to a feeder airport with a ridiculous number of flights to NYC, from whence I can get anywhere in 12 hours.
We have a key to our house, somewhere, we just don't remember where we keep it.
You do have to learn to live between 30-90F, occasionally less, but we spend >80% of our time between 50-75 which is fine for me. _________________ .ssS! |
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Wasted youth Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2012 Posts: 4873 Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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Clatter wrote: |
...Spend a summer in AZ before you commit. |
And Williams Junction or Flagstaff don't count!  _________________ 1968 Double Cab truck, 1973 Auto trans bus, 1978 Auto trans Sunroof bus with A/C and a 1987 Auto trans Westfalia. |
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Clatter Samba Member

Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 5496 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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Tram wrote: |
Problem is... it's Flint and Detroit... |
That's how I feel about the rest of the country.
Um,
You guys _have_ heard of the first law of classical economic theory, right?
It's called "Supply and demand"..
Good stuff costs more. Duh.
They haven't legislated it out of existence, and never will, despite their best efforts.
People cry about the "housing crisis" here in Santa Cruz all of the time.
Saying asinine things like "People have a right to affordable housing!!"..
Bullshit.
People do NOT have a right to live in a gorgeous beachfront town for a low price.
If you can't afford to live here, it's not the fault of the entire state of California.
Guess whose fault it is?
At least CA has some open space left.
I grew up in CO,
And now it's all mini-ranchettes to the horizon in all directions.
The suburbs, stretched out to several acres each lot, everywhere.
"Here is your designated Colorado Recreation Area - Please feel free to recreate as allowed during your specified time".
The only heroes in this story are the people who never had any kids.
I'm sure that Chris can't resist the fact that his house in San Jose is worth over a million dollars,
And he's cashing in, to go live somewhere that's not as nice, but cheaper.
I worked summers as an A/C tech in Phoenix for several years.
It has some nice things about it,
But,
That place sucks compared to here.
Chris,
You'll be reading this no doubt,
Just remember one thing..
Once you leave, you'll never be able to afford to come back.
Spend a summer in AZ before you commit. _________________ Bus Motor Build
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if you have the expectation that you can put mexican taxi bearings, in a brazil engine case, and put a chinese crank in it and have the right clearance...
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 35391 Location: Retired so can be anywhere now - NorCal
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Old DKP Driver Chris? |
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Wasted youth wrote: |
KentPS wrote: |
I forget...
What was the original topic?  |
It was about the Cabazon Dinosaurs being turned into a costly tourist trap with wristbands and high taxes. C'mon... try to keep up!  |
You should try one of their steaks soaked in La Brea marinade, seasoned with natural sea salt, served on a high desert tortoise shell with a side of poppy dressing and giant sloth tail. The water served is 10,000 year old bottled Mojave deep pool from the Ice Age. I'll bet they don't serve that in Michigan.
If Chris escaped from this place I doubt he will want to be reminded of it. I believe he was treated quite poorly as he got close to retirement. He probably is sitting on a beach somewhere enjoying his new found freedom.
. _________________ American Standard Snorkeling Terrier
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