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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:54 pm Post subject: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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What range year did the sunroof rails with the plastic insert run? 1952 to early 55 or something else?
Would a May 1955 have rails with the insert or rails without the insert?
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Mark Evans Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 1931 Location: Alsea,Oregon
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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I also have a May '55 sunroof car. I don't remember there being any plastic inserts (currently dismantled) but can check. _________________ '63 Ragtop |
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55 3fold Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2016 Posts: 10 Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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When you say plastic inserts are you talking about the black guide trim that runs down the outer channel? (they are missing in photo) I believe first couple months of 53 they were added! My May 55 definitely has them! |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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Yes, missing in the above photo. So it sounds like a May 55 had the plastic strip.
When did it stop? |
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Jonnyla Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2013 Posts: 101 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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My May 4th car does too. 🤘🏼
Although I don't know if mind are the originals to the car. _________________ '55 3 fold sedan, stock with lower stance (project)
'57 sedan, future old speed outlaw style (project) |
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55 3fold Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2016 Posts: 10 Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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They would have run until the end of the 3 fold assembly, early Aug 55. with the introduction of the roller system instead of a friction sliding roof mechanism. |
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Mark Evans Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 1931 Location: Alsea,Oregon
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:52 am Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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Mine do indeed have the outer nylon strips as well. Been packed away for over ten years... _________________ '63 Ragtop |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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Mark, thank you for checking!
I've heard the plastic strip is the same as the stuff used in deluxe trim. Does anyone have a source of just the small amount needed? |
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john7 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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nlorntson wrote: |
Mark, thank you for checking!
I've heard the plastic strip is the same as the stuff used in deluxe trim. Does anyone have a source of just the small amount needed? |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17290 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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It's vinyl.
At one time WCM had it. _________________
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Chip Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2008 Posts: 969 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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My July 55 has the plastic inserts. |
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mr white Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2005 Posts: 1193 Location: beautiful Oregon & Mohave County, AZ
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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Can someone tell me when the three fold cut off was in 1955? I know of a ribbed door bullet fender car made in Nov- Dec 55. |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17290 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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mr white wrote: |
I know of a ribbed door bullet fender car made in Nov- Dec 55. |
Either this car is a fake, or you've got the date of manufacture wrong.
Ribbed doors and 3 fold sunroofs ended at the end of July, 55.
Aug 55 saw the start of smooth doors and 2 fold sunroofs. _________________
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mr white Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2005 Posts: 1193 Location: beautiful Oregon & Mohave County, AZ
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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1955 is the year of magicians regarding VWs. This is old news! This car is real. Robbed doors. I suspect two fold. Vin starts -1 10 from what I recall. |
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OvalinAz Samba Mini Tech
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mr white Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2005 Posts: 1193 Location: beautiful Oregon & Mohave County, AZ
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:05 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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Are you saying all -1 prefix 55 bugs are three fold ragtops? This particular( I have terrible pics in the gallery) is a Nov- Dec 55 bug. Bullet fender, no semaphores, ribbed door car. Two fold! Early 1956 model year. Snow flake car. Vin is -1 10 something from what I can read. Pics of the three fold opening in 54-55 would help with measurements. Regarding 1955, I have a few type 2s that defy logic- rules! |
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AlteWagen Troll
Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 8503 Location: PNW
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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My Oct 55 has a vin with 1-0998** and is a non ribbed car. A friend has a Aug 55 build vert 1-0924 that uses a 55 pan which SHOULD have come with ribbed doors but came with the new non ribbed stuff as well.
A ribbed 2 fold NEVER came built from the factory, not sure if the CKD had the possibility of that combo.
Back in the day a a few buddies build early ovals (54 and 55) with 2 fold rags, one job was almost undetectable due to great install but again done after the fact.
Agreed that 55 was a crazy year for VWs, so many changes to the cars especially with the YOM starting that year, for Type 2 they were moving from Wolfsburg to the new location so Im sure some growing pains as well.
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Jonnyla Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2013 Posts: 101 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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Is the car your referring to the one in your gallery labeled "sept-oct 1955"?
If so I don't see door alignment wedges in the 'b' pillars. So that would mean not original door. I agree with altwagen as well. _________________ '55 3 fold sedan, stock with lower stance (project)
'57 sedan, future old speed outlaw style (project) |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: Early 1955 3 fold sunroof rails |
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Who knows what size screws are used to hold the rails down? M4 but how long? |
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