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mtsipe Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2016 Posts: 86 Location: Wilmington, Delaware
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:00 am Post subject: 1993 VW Rabbit Cabriolet - instrument cluster |
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Hello, I am in need of vw rabbit parts. Most of all I need an instrument cluster.
What are some similar model makes and years that would work with this vehicle, golf? gti? rabbit? |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12846 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:08 am Post subject: Re: 1993 VW Rabbit Cabriolet - instrument cluster |
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That late of a Cabriolet is going to leave you with touch & go compatibility with '88 & up Golfs & Jettas. The clusters had several harness connection possibilities but only a couple Speedo head variations. If you can find one that works, the speedometer unit can be removed & swapped into your cluster.
What part of your cluster is not working? _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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mtsipe Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2016 Posts: 86 Location: Wilmington, Delaware
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:33 am Post subject: Re: 1993 VW Rabbit Cabriolet - instrument cluster |
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The vehicle has no instrument cluster in it at the moment.
To make matters more interesting, it has a running 1998 2.0 jetta engine in it.
I would be willing to custom make a cluster if I had to combine the two. |
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Butcher Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2015 Posts: 1285 Location: Right Here
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:09 am Post subject: Re: 1993 VW Rabbit Cabriolet - instrument cluster |
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I would stick with something from 90-93. The issue you have is that you have an air bag [at least it did when it came from the factory] and the cluster you find should have those indicator lights.
As for any USA built clusters, no, they will not work. The clusters that have 2 connectors, yeah they will fit, but a lot of bending is required along with making 2 connectors in the body harness.
If you have the original factory fuel injection, it should be fine. If you have the newer injection system, I do not know if the tach would work or not. |
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mtsipe Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2016 Posts: 86 Location: Wilmington, Delaware
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:42 am Post subject: Re: 1993 VW Rabbit Cabriolet - instrument cluster |
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I purchased an instrument cluster from a 90-93 Cabriolet with airbag. I plugged the wiring harnesses in and speedo cable. I turned the key and no lights at all
I contacted the seller. He said that he had tested the unit before shipping and had said that he has never sold a unit that the tach didn't work. He said if the dimmer switch is not working then the lights wouldn't work
I tried using the dimmer switch with no luck. I had an another headlight/dimmer switch to try but no luck either.
I have purchased new lights(3 LED) to try and replace them to see if that it would at least light up.
Anybody have any insights they would like to add about my instrument cluster issue?
Thanks |
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Butcher Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2015 Posts: 1285 Location: Right Here
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:47 am Post subject: Re: 1993 VW Rabbit Cabriolet - instrument cluster |
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Throwing parts at it is a terrible idea on fixing cars. Start with a good wiring diagram and a good VOM. Buy a Bentley too. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16859 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: 1993 VW Rabbit Cabriolet - instrument cluster |
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Butcher wrote: |
Throwing parts at it is a terrible idea on fixing cars. Start with a good wiring diagram and a good VOM. Buy a Bentley too. |
especially if this has a 2.0 swap in it. it very well could need a mk3 cluster....at this point who knows what's what with this thing _________________
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7915 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: 1993 VW Rabbit Cabriolet - instrument cluster |
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mtsipe wrote: |
I purchased an instrument cluster from a 90-93 Cabriolet with airbag. I plugged the wiring harnesses in and speedo cable. I turned the key and no lights at all |
If nothing in that instrument cluster is working on the electrical front (tach gets its signal from the coil, thus if the engine isn't running, ignore this one for now), pull the main connector and check for switched power at pin 14 (they are labelled). If no switched power, check the ground (pin 2). Report back on results.
http://www.cabby-info.com/Files/InstrumentClusterDiagrams.pdf
This car has a 2.0 swap; plenty have undergone this swap with no instrument cluster problems. It would appear the PO started a project he wasn't willing to finish, which is now up to you to sort out, which is going to be difficult without wiring diagrams in front of you. _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
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etijsma Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2012 Posts: 18
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: 1993 VW Rabbit Cabriolet - instrument cluster |
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Take the green wire straight from the back of the cluster and cut it before it goes into fuse box. Then run that wire through the firewall and to the coil. Put a female spade connector on it and put it on the neg side of coil. I’ll look when I get home which side it is. And the cluster will work.
Edit. After seeing multiple post on this you need a Bentley for both vehicles, meter and paper to draw out everything and start drawing your new diagrams. It’s alway a pain to pickup someone else’s project. You are damn near going to have to strip it down and redo it. It will prolly be easier. I had several corrado parts cars when I did a crazy swap in a corrado and was chasing dumb things. Do t assume anything. |
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