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Mccurdy7778 Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2015 Posts: 54 Location: Seattle WA
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:01 pm Post subject: Engine issues |
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Okay I don't own a bus, but I am shopping for a bus. I'm new to the pancake engine. Anyways, I found a nice looking 78 riviera that I like however it has an engine issue. Apparently it starts up and idles fine, cruises decent, but once you hit a certain rpm it wants to die. The owner says he had a guy check it out and he said the problem is the afm sticking catching, and needs to be ground down slightly or bent.
What do you guys think? it sounds like an air or fuel issue to me so i could see it being this afm thing. Maybe an O2 sensor?
if it is the afm is it simply a matter of pulling it and making sure it doesn't catch when it opens up? give it a good clean?
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Engine issues |
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Could be an AFM issue, or crap in the fuel tank, or an ignition issue, too tough to call with so little information. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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KentABQ Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2016 Posts: 2406 Location: Albuquerque NM
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Engine issues |
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From what I know/understand about the AFM, it's best not to futz with it. So grinding, bending, polishing, cleaning it is strongly NOT recommended. It's a very delicate piece of precision equipment, even after 40 years.
Amskeptic has a fantastic thread on dealing with the AFM. I learned everything I know about it from his write-up. So I'd highly recommend searching the Samba Bay Window forum to find it. I'd look, but I'm on my second margarita, and am not sure if I'm using this dang keyboard correctly... _________________ -Kent-
1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"
"I must say, how can you be in a bad mood driving this vehicle full of vibrant color.
Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Engine issues |
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A good PPI will cost $500 and will Tell ypu what danger lurks.
You can’t evaluate an engine readingstuff on the internet. _________________ .ssS! |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50352
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Engine issues |
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If the price is right and that is all that is wrong with it, just grin and buy it. |
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timvw7476 Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2013 Posts: 2206 Location: seattle
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Engine issues |
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Wildthings wrote: |
If the price is right and that is all that is wrong with it, just grin and buy it. |
This is a no-brainer in classic auto emissions exempt Wa. state.
Worst thing that happens, you bolt a pair of 34 ICT carbs on & you're good.
Still might have to clean out the fuel tank. : l |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16971 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Engine issues |
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5:05 pm is a little early for two margaritas don’t you think? Usually takes me to at least 5:30 but then again, you old people in Palm Springs go to bed early I hear. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12728 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: Engine issues |
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aeromech wrote: |
5:05 pm is a little early for two margaritas don’t you think? Usually takes me to at least 5:30 but then again, you old people in Palm Springs go to bed early I hear. |
It's warmer there, so they have to cool down some how! _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
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KentABQ Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2016 Posts: 2406 Location: Albuquerque NM
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:39 am Post subject: Re: Engine issues |
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asiab3 wrote: |
aeromech wrote: |
5:05 pm is a little early for two margaritas don’t you think? Usually takes me to at least 5:30 but then again, you old people in Palm Springs go to bed early I hear. |
It's warmer there, so they have to cool down some how! |
That, and it's getting dark so early, so I have to make the first one before it's too dark to see.
The weather foreguessers are saying 86* here on Thanksgiving. So Margaritas will need to start really early that day!
And, yup, this old guy goes to bed very early. Mornings in the desert are the best, so I'm up around 4:30 most days.
Okay, now I'm lost. What is the topic of this thread again?? Something about an engine...? _________________ -Kent-
1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"
"I must say, how can you be in a bad mood driving this vehicle full of vibrant color.
Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea
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andrewtf Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2011 Posts: 604 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Engine issues |
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Boy - I was going totally the other way.......
5:05 pm and your only 2 margaritas in....Kent - I thought you were better than that. I don't want to accuse you of being a lightweight, but.....
And Emma and I are waiting to tomorrow to install the last cv because its warming up to a balmy 50* (sorry Robbie - were were waiting for new 12 point cv bolts). _________________ '75 Riviera - 'BIG EMMA' (Pan American highway trip paused for a make over)
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Engine issues |
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does this mean you haven't seem it or test driven it? _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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curtp07 Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 874 Location: Mass
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:40 am Post subject: Re: Engine issues |
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If the owner is talking about grinding or bending the AFM, he doesn’t know anything about his bus.
I would look it over VERY carefully. _________________ Subaru |
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