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Redpepper31 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2015 Posts: 37 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:45 pm Post subject: 2.0 engine value |
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My brother-in-law is cleaning out his shop and gave me his 2.0 long block from a 914 he had years ago. He told me the engine was running when removed.
I just rebuilt the type 4 in my 77 bus so really don't need the engine.
I plan on selling it but unsure of the value compared to the VW type 4.
Can anyone give me a ballpark figure for the long block? |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21510 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:08 am Post subject: Re: 2.0 engine value |
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The problem with enginez that sit for years.....and were removed in used condition....is that they only had a limited lifespan yet and no one knows what it may have had left for life. Add to that.....sitting and not running is one of the worst things for an engine.
So for most people....unless you can start it......its just an engine core. If its really a 914 2.0.....the three bolt 914 specific heads have "some" value.....but they are prone to cracking and the cost to correct that is very high. Its high enough that since now there are 912 2.0 specific new castings on the market.......in my opinion unless the heads have been pulled off and the castings checked for cracks and the valve seats checked for tightness.....I would not pay extra for them.
For someone who is doing a restoration and just "must" have real 914 castings....they have value.
If its just a longblock....no 914 specific sheet metal or injection system.....aside from the heads its just a core. I would say about $400 for a complete core longblock that rotates. If you can verify the heads are good....add about $400-$500 to it because they are still used.
I would pull the heads and have them checked....then bolt them back on. Ray |
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Mikedrevguy Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2008 Posts: 2237 Location: Medford, OR
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:46 am Post subject: Re: 2.0 engine value |
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What does it mean “I already have rebuilt my motor so have no need of another”.? These words,seem all a jumble and just crazy talk that I don’t feel is appropriate for my wife’s sensitive ears.*
Actually- my wife is very supportive of the necessity for more, bigger motors, especially when it’s going into her 914.. _________________ 74 1303 (RevBug): plan for German Look
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2016 Posts: 279 Location: atlanta ga
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:02 am Post subject: Re: 2.0 engine value |
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a genuine 914 2.0 long block is always worth 1000 dollars as long as it turns over |
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thesatanicmechanic Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2008 Posts: 102 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:24 am Post subject: Re: 2.0 engine value |
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I just sold a '73-'74 2.0 less induction, exhaust and ignition coil at "friend price" for $1500 + freight & insurance. Sure it could have commanded $2K plus if I'd held out for it.
I always have kept a spare engine for my air cooled VWs, just 'sayin.
2.0 914 heads are by general consensus, not appropriate for bus applications since they have less material in the combustion chambers and are more susceptible to distortion and heat related damage. I've run them in a type 2 application before with a long duration camshaft and didn't have any issue.
YMMV. |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21510 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:43 am Post subject: Re: 2.0 engine value |
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[email protected] wrote: |
a genuine 914 2.0 long block is always worth 1000 dollars as long as it turns over |
Sad but true.....however...its only excess value (over any other type 4 based longblock) are the case series and number and number location...specific to a 914 and the heads if they are functional.....which is more rare by the day.....and it onoy has usefulness to those who are doing an actual restoration.
It has no other benefits by design to any other type 4. Crank, rods ...same....case....other tjan the number position...same. The heads...for what it costs to make the average head "safe" to drive at this date and time can be better spent on brand new 914 2.0 castings (new life, better alloy).....and you will likely get away cheaper.
Pistons?....they better be low miles, not a scuff on them and have another hundred k in their skirts or they are just scrap.
I understand the collectors value for the restoration crowd.....but outside of that....porsche people keep paying Porsche $'s for VW parts for no "functional" reasons. Ray |
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