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Area51 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2002 Posts: 255 Location: Area51 / The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:19 am Post subject: the one and only Barndoor Binz? |
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according to history, there should only be one Binz Barndoor crew cab
just spotted on www.barndoor.dk
the real one, or just a TIY (try it yourself) creation ?? |
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zimblewinder Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2004 Posts: 893 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Id also like to know if there ever was a RHD Binz? What is the earliest RHD double cab??? _________________ 58Euro 23 343208 The Ultimate Zimblewinder Machine.
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63crewzer Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 118 Location: North-central Oklahoma
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Some guy on the vintagebus list was claiming he had one, for a long time. Said he wouldn't release pics until such and such date, I unsubscribed, so I don't know what became of it. It would be the type2 holy grail as far as I am concerned. L8 |
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Area51 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2002 Posts: 255 Location: Area51 / The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Heard that rumour years ago .. that some guy had a Binz barndoor, but was nobody did ever see any pictures.
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It would be the type2 holy grail as far as I am concerned. L8 |
I agree !!
Had the chance to buy a '53 singlecab a couple of years ago, and the plan (build a Binz barndoor crewcab)
crossed my mind, but the body was too fare gone |
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Oldnslow Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2003 Posts: 465 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:53 am Post subject: |
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I don't know what that is but it is not a Binz. That flat panel below the rear window without the seam from the single cab bed is a dead giveaway. |
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TeamSpatula Samba In The Rain
Joined: February 03, 2004 Posts: 5212 Location: WNC
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:01 am Post subject: |
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I also remember those claims on the vintagebus list, but I'm still a member, and am pretty sure nothing ever came up...I'd like to see more pics of that one - looks like it's running bay wheels, the front bumper is odd, and looks like there's been some other creative bodywork as well... _________________ <---Air Cooled Search & Rescue Team - STICKERS & T-shirts for sale!
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69807 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:25 am Post subject: Re: the one and only ?? |
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That is not a Barndoor Binz but a hacked up Barndoor.
The "Barndoor Binz" from the Type 2 list was never a Binz but may have been some sort of other coachbuilt, assuming it was even real. Last time I talked to him he said he sold it, which could be a lie.
Here's an early semaphore Truck for you
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Touch Nicks Thing Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2003 Posts: 2029 Location: Alexandria, VA
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Is there a treasure chest in that picture? Looks like there is some sort of opening door in front on the wheel well. |
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Gerson Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 1828 Location: Jupiter Fl
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:34 am Post subject: strange |
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Of all the barndoor buses that I own/have seen, in the area where I live, this is the strangest one to date, the first thing that I looked at when I saw that bus were the spotwelds along the roof line, where the roof meets the drip rail, and I tried to find weld seams or filler on the roof, there were none. I got under the car, the chassis is a 53 chassis, it has a correct beam, 53 and earlier reduction boxes etc., I think this bus is a singlecab (type 26), with a rear section added, the bus still has the ID plate attached, I got all the numbers off the plate and tried to do some research on it, later on I sent the pictures to Tonny Larson at the barndoor.dk website, I drive by the thing everyday. |
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gatorwyatt Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2002 Posts: 1867 Location: Clearwater Fl.
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: the one and only ?? |
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EverettB wrote: |
That is not a Barndoor Binz but a hacked up Barndoor.
The "Barndoor Binz" from the Type 2 list was never a Binz but may have been some sort of other coachbuilt, assuming it was even real. Last time I talked to him he said he sold it, which could be a lie.
Here's an early semaphore Truck for you
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whats up with that truck in the picture?it has some goofy windows in the rear area.i would assume its a binz just a late one?semiphores wouldnt be in the rear pillar if it was factory and it also has pressed bumpers
the one in the gersons photo is also pretty wild.maybe if you drive buy it stop and measure the length of the side windows and see if it has vw logos on them.that would tell you something,because binz side windows dont fit anything else that i have seen.look for a tag too.just dont get shot checkin out some dudes car. |
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Gerson Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 1828 Location: Jupiter Fl
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject: strange bus |
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As a matter of fact the guy who owns it is coming by my shop next week, I will take a ton of pictures and try to post them on this site or my shitty site, the thing has a 6 leg middle seat that I have been trying to get a hold of for a long time. |
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Dave24 Samba Hack Purist
Joined: April 14, 2004 Posts: 7442 Location: Hablamos Ingles, So. Cal.
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: the one and only ?? |
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gatorwyatt wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
That is not a Barndoor Binz but a hacked up Barndoor.
The "Barndoor Binz" from the Type 2 list was never a Binz but may have been some sort of other coachbuilt, assuming it was even real. Last time I talked to him he said he sold it, which could be a lie.
Here's an early semaphore Truck for you
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whats up with that truck in the picture?it has some goofy windows in the rear area.i would assume its a binz just a late one?semiphores wouldnt be in the rear pillar if it was factory and it also has pressed bumpers
the one in the gersons photo is also pretty wild.maybe if you drive buy it stop and measure the length of the side windows and see if it has vw logos on them.that would tell you something,because binz side windows dont fit anything else that i have seen.look for a tag too.just dont get shot checkin out some dudes car. |
I could be wrong but a binz also had a"suicide" type side rear door,yes or no? |
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63crewzer Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 118 Location: North-central Oklahoma
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: the one and only ?? |
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[/quote]I could be wrong but a binz also had a"suicide" type side rear door,yes or no?[/quote]
As far as I know all of em did. |
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Area51 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2002 Posts: 255 Location: Area51 / The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: the one and only ?? |
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63crewzer wrote: |
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I could be wrong but a binz also had a"suicide" type side rear door,yes or no? |
As far as I know all of em did. |
No, not all of them had a suicide door .. the last Binzess had a normal opening door as far as I know.
Pictures taken off thesamba years ago, Thanks Everett !! |
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wardenclyffe Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Burbank, CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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That blue truck appears to be Swedish. Even if the writing on the door did not give it away, the configuration would. It's a LHD, which all Swedish cars were. But in Sweden, at the time, they drove on the left side of the road with LHD cars. That would explain why the rear door is on the driver's side. In American Binzes, it's on the passenger side. I don't know if Swedish single cabs have both the steering wheel and the treasure chest door on the left, but probably, and it probably makes them extremely rare.
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gatorwyatt Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2002 Posts: 1867 Location: Clearwater Fl.
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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another thought...that is the first early one ive seen w/door on driver side.binz probably did not make a door for each lhd and rhd.they probably just used the same door and depending on what side they put it on was the way the door opened.if you took that door on the blue truck in the pic and flipped it to the other side it would be suicide. |
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meinvw Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2003 Posts: 835 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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The pic that Ev put up looks like a painting vs a real pic. So the artist might have taken a few liberties with it. _________________ The memories of a man in his old age, are the deeds of a man in his prime.
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Dave24 Samba Hack Purist
Joined: April 14, 2004 Posts: 7442 Location: Hablamos Ingles, So. Cal.
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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meinvw wrote: |
The pic that Ev put up looks like a painting vs a real pic. So the artist might have taken a few liberties with it. |
So, they had both suicide and non , but a painting? are you sure? the artist embelished this AND put rust and corrosion in the wheelwell/dogleg? |
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Stanagon Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2003 Posts: 4186 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Dave24 wrote: |
meinvw wrote: |
The pic that Ev put up looks like a painting vs a real pic. So the artist might have taken a few liberties with it. |
So, they had both suicide and non , but a painting? are you sure? the artist embelished this AND put rust and corrosion in the wheelwell/dogleg? |
probably an airbrushed photo, back when they did that alot and very well. it looks like a little dirt down on the rockers to me, which would be "natural" for a hard working truck |
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9789 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Not painted, just colorized.
Looks like a Black and White phote which was tinted for an ad.
Very common practise back then.
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