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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12861 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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Today I addressed some simple stuff like free up a seized door latch assembly on the passenger side & then do the same to the drivers seat tracks, unfortunately, the seat still needs to go back another 4"-5" to fit comfortably.
Next, I decided to attack the rear of the car first & since the Thing front end should raise the front approximately 2.5", I'm going to shoot for roughly a 3" raise in the rear. I have some Bilstein shocks for it & those tend to raise a car about an inch so I plan to go up about 2" by adjusting the torsion bars which is just a bit less than the one notch on the outer splines, we'll start there.
Since this little guy was sagging pretty badly in the rear, the three raise of three inches, along with notching of the spring plates should still give me decent downward travel. I will be using 944 axles, CVs, & outer stubs with some bus to bug flanges at the trans (to better cope with the increased angles) & a set of type III rear drums.
So I unbolted the passenger side trailing arm & removed the spring plate cover.
Then I removed the access cover in the rear quarter & slid the spring plate off the torsion bar, through the access hole and then turned it up45* to slide it up & over the torsion bar.
And then removed the spring plate.
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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Here's the difference between the new shock & the original.
So, to get a bit more travel, I installed the shock & released the trailing arm so that it could go full droop so I could determine how much of the spring plate to remove. I reinstalled the spring plate & bolted it to the outside of the trailing arm, jacked up the trailing arm ever so slightly and then scribed a line on the inside of the spring plate where the suspension stop is so that the spring plate tops out before the shock does.
Then using a straight edge I scribed a line to cut along, then put the spring plate in the drill press & drilled a hole to stop at & then trimmed away the piece to be removed. Since the stop tab on the torsion housing only makes contact with the inner spring plate, I left the outer one alone.
Then I reassembled it all & here it is with the passenger side done.
Keep in mind that it will raise a bit more when the other side is done as the passenger side is holding up the driver's side to a degree.
Why yes, it is snowing, here it is after the first 2", I went home before the next 10"
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it.
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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I pulled the front beam out of the other project & the first thing that I did was to cut the upper adjuster free so I could reposition it to get the trailing arms closer to stock height, then I rewelded it & touched it back up.
Then I started to remove the beam in the Ghiapet. I started by removing the passenger side tierod
Then I removed the speedometer cable.
Next was to remove the retaining clips for the brake hoses & then the hoses themselves.
Once those were out of the way, I removed the gas tank to gain access to the steering coupler.
And then the beam to body bolts.
I then went underneath and removed the upper beam to pan head bolts.
Before removing the lower bolts, I bolted the wheels back on, then removed the lower bolts & raised the car to drop (literally) the beam.
It looks like the ideal time to replace the nonfunctioning master cylinder.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
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Basketcase Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2011 Posts: 636 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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not wasting any time on this one. lookin good! _________________ '72 Karmann Ghia Coupe (the Boss's) |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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Basketcase wrote: |
not wasting any time on this one. lookin good! |
Thanks!
While trying to clean up the frame head I quickly realized that there was very little counterbalancing the weight of the engine at the back, so I opted to get the beam back in. I started by positioning the beam in place & then starting the beam to body bolts (without the bushings)
Then I ran a die on the beam bolts to clean up the threads & then applied antisieze to them.
And then installed the beam to pan head bolts.
I then set the car down to check out it's new attitude.
Once I was done admiring it, I turned my attention to the brakes and removed the drum & backing plate.
Then I installed the caliper bracket.
Then I installed new bearing races into the rotors.
And then installed them. I use a screwdriver to check tension on the slotted washer, you should be able to just get it to slide with a gentle twist.
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GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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While trying to reassemble everything, I noticed that the steering coupler wasn't liking the angle that the steering box was at & it occurred that due to the differences in seating position & roofline between the beetle (that donated the beam) and the Ghia, there would be a definite difference in the angle of the column.
This was easily remedied by swapping the steering box clamp from the original beam.
So I buttoned it all back up & dropped it down.
Here it is outside.
I even straightened the grilles.
I still need to reposition the drivers side rear spring plate & make final suspension height adjustments. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
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Basketcase Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2011 Posts: 636 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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what's the plan for the body? clean it up and call it a day? or tear into it? _________________ '72 Karmann Ghia Coupe (the Boss's) |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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Basketcase wrote: |
what's the plan for the body? clean it up and call it a day? or tear into it? |
Plan?!? Don't plan, just do it.
No plan for the body as of yet, just concentrating on getting it running, driving, & stopping and then driving the ever lovin' dog snot out of it.
Now, from the "Hey Y'all watch this" department, if any of you have ever dug a crusty POS out of a long term hibernation, then you know what a PITA it is when the heavily rusted/pitted pulleys chew up your belts (I have yet to replace this one due to this issue.). I found that the easiest way to "freshen" up the surface where the belt rides is to start the car, and then while it's running, carefully grind a new surface with a die grinder.
Once done, the pulley is now usable without fear of chewing a new belt off within a few miles.
I then turned my attention to doing a valve adjustment, I had a couple of adjusters that were seized so I heated them up a bit & then adjusted them.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Basketcase Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2011 Posts: 636 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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then driving the ever lovin' dog snot out of it.
now that's a plan _________________ '72 Karmann Ghia Coupe (the Boss's) |
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Basketcase Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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then driving the ever lovin' dog snot out of it.
now that's a plan _________________ '72 Karmann Ghia Coupe (the Boss's) |
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bhartwell59 Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2014 Posts: 793 Location: dallas, tx
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:38 am Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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Haha, a gasser Ghia!
Fun watching this thread. _________________ '74 Zambezi green Ghia vert, autostick, 101k
'87 Jeep Wrangler, 4.2, 330k |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:12 am Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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bhartwell59 wrote: |
Haha, a gasser Ghia!
Fun watching this thread. |
I'm glad that someone finds it entertaining, just wait until it's roadworthy.
It lost some of it's gasser stance after I adjusted the last corner.
And just for an idea of it's current ground clearance...
c21darrel wrote: |
Type 1 .... its the same clamp on beetle its upside down.
This one shows which way is up. 14 side for ghia, 13 side for bug.
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Nice, those kunning krauts! I should have known that as incestuous as the VW parts bin is that they would have made parts to serve a dual purpose as well. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
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Basketcase Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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bhartwell59 wrote:
Haha, a gasser Ghia!
Fun watching this thread.
I'm glad that someone finds it entertaining, just wait until it's roadworthy.
well I thought it too....I just didn't want to be the first to say it..... _________________ '72 Karmann Ghia Coupe (the Boss's) |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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c21darrel wrote: |
PM me if you want the free dashpad. |
Done, Thanks Darrel!
I started to tear into replacing the brake master cylinder, it would have been much simpler without all the steering & suspension crap in the way.
all of the flare nuts were seized onto the brake lines, but the hotwrench always comes through, a little torch action & the flare nuts almost always free up so you don't twist the lines off.
Who's a silly bastard? ME! for some strange reason, I thought maybe I wouldn't have to replace the rear line. Well, as soon as I removed the flare nut, I realized that there was just too much free play in the line. I went inside & confirmed my suspicions.
FU#*&G GLORIOUS, what numbnut thought this was even a possibility?!?! (S&^t like this just gives me Tourette's Syndrome)
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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Nope, I usually find them either rusted away or they have been butchered with compression fittings, this was a new insight into the mechanically inept's understanding of automotive repair.
Out with the old.
And in with the new.
I then used one of my hammers to prop up the master cylinder so I could start the bolts.
Since I haven't had a chance to buy a roll of brake line yet, I tossed in a new/ longer speedometer cable since the original no longer reached.
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GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Joined: July 22, 2007 Posts: 3916 Location: In Molinya Orbit
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing the Ghiapet |
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sputnick60 wrote: |
Since you’ve been doing a good job both on the Ghia Pet and with documenting the mechanical work, I’ve made a spot for this in the “Ghia Restoration Toipcs - for Instruction and Inspiration” sticky. You’d be on your best behavior now 😄
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Yeah... umm... thanks, I hate to disappoint everyone but this one ain't exactly getting restored.
Initially, I wanted to go for a rally look but why stop at just the "look" part, I looked into my local SCCA sanctioned charter, Tar Heel Sports Car Club, & they have several rallycross events scheduled for this year. Hopefully, I'll get the Ghiapet ready for the first event at the end of February. However, this will cause me to retain street type tires instead of the more aggressive all terrain tires that I wanted to complete the look as they are not permitted on all courses.
https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/thscc-rallycr...ntent=html
Today I decided to tear into the rear brakes & removed the drum to reveal every arachnophobe's worst nightmare.
Then I removed the backing plate.
I then started to strip a set of typeIII brakes off another donor only to find that the adjuster were long since seized, so I let the torch do its magic on those too.
Mmm, the smell of roasted arachnid and asbestos in the morning.
Once heated, the adjusters yielded with little resistance.
Here's an idea of the size difference between the typeI & the typeIII brakes.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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