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grailoc
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Tourabout
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 Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: 57 Beetle Barn Find |
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I have breaking news.
My VW Oval is actually a 1957.
It was made the first week of the production year of 1957 which was the first week of September 1956.
I looked up the chassis number and it showed to be a 1956 which is why I was calling it a 56.
I am sure a lot of the parts left over from 1956 may have carried over to the 1957 like the ribbed firewall tar board?
From now on I will refer to it as a 1957.. |
congratulation for your new car.
It looks super close to mine, color, interestior and overall shape...
Mine is convertible but same color.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7796259 |
That's a nice ride, almost a twin to mine. |
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grailoc
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Cman
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| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: 56 Beetle Barn Find |
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Here are pictures of the paint.
What can I do to save original paint?
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I'm in a similar situation on my newly acquired 57. Non-original, older single-stage repaint.
I've used this system (link below) on a few cars in the past and I HIGHLY recommend.
It involves clay to remove contaminants, soaking the paint for 24-48 hours with Meguiars #7 to "feed" it by replenishing the long lost oils, followed by a hand polish and wax. A few cars I have, sporting original paint were completely faded. Using this system, where the paint wasn't otherwise damaged, they came out looking practically showroom fresh.
https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/2009-to-2016-...aints.html |
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motofly196
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| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: 56 Beetle Barn Find |
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He seem educated, but ultimately he's trying to sell a product. (I honestly couldnt read it all the way once it got all infomercial )
I can remove oxidation by spitting on my rag for free. Long story short, that oxidation has to be removed. There is no way you're going to rejuvenate paint, it's off-gassed solvents, it's been destroyed from UV light aND heat...it's done. That's why it's chalky white. What the oxidation has done though, it has protected all the remaining paint below. The trick is not rubbing through the thin paint. I particularly like the look of that in areas....naturally.
I use the least aggressive compound first, and progressively get courser if it needs it. I'm sure every detailer has a "secret" recipie, I do too....it's what I'm comfortable with. It's hard to find single stage junk In yards around me anymore...but I would practice on something you don't care about 1st, see how the paint reacts. 70's chevy and gmc orange reacts about the same as vw paints in my opinion. It shines up really nice. But those parts aren't cheap practice anymore. |
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Cman
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| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:05 pm Post subject: Re: 56 Beetle Barn Find |
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I agree everyone has their secrets.
All I can share is my own experience of over 40 years.
This paint was roached, completely faded and chalky but original, very thin and brittle.
(Please don't flame me, not a VW)
Polished it up with zero compound-pretty gentle and didn't remove any more than I had to. The rag is the abrasive, as you suggest. You can always break out the wheel and polish if need be, but this seemed like a good place to start, for me. I thought I'd share the pic for anyone interested. |
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motofly196
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:12 am Post subject: Re: 56 Beetle Barn Find |
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I can't see the image you posted. I'm not opposed to trying new things, but leaving material in paint kinda scares me. If you run into an area that might of been repaired and the top coat blended, is it possible for the oils in the Polish to stain one area differently than the other?
I have a few heavily oxidized panels here....when it warms up I might try this process and report back with my results too. Thanks for the link! |
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Cman
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: 56 Beetle Barn Find |
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That's strange.
The image was up last night and now it's not in my gallery either.
Maybe the administrators pulled it because its not a VW? I've posted it again.
Honestly, I wouldn't go out on a limb to recommend this process if I didn't have good experience with it. It's a lot of work, all that hand rubbing, but the leaving the Meguiar's #7 on for 24 hours definitely made a difference in the paint...gave it some shine and some depth, cleaned up the oxidized metal flake, and seemed to 'feed' it so you could work it better. I'm sure there are easier ways to get there by removing layers (if you have them to spare) but I really liked the idea of polishing this old paint without having to remove hardly any of it.
Good idea to try it out on a test panel. It may take differently to blends and repairs, and won't do anything for basecoat/clearcoat.
In this case I was getting ready to repaint this car and then I tried this. I figured I had nothing to lose.
Best of success,
CM |
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motofly196
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: 56 Beetle Barn Find |
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| I see the pic now...that did come out great! I've just always figures VW metallics were a lost cause trying to bring them back. I have a few pieces with OG metallic on them, I'll give the Meguiars #7 a try this spring and see what it looks like. Thanks for the tip! |
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EverettB 
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wimkever
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:31 am Post subject: Re: 56 Beetle Barn Find |
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| motofly196 wrote: |
| I see the pic now...that did come out great! |
Picture is gone (again?)
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