freddie_poland
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Location: Poland
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 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:58 pm Post subject: CE vs CO gearbox - problems and solutions ? |
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Dear, greetings from Poland. Since 8 years I am the owner of 1973 highroof T2 1600 ccm bus. Since some time I had a problem with manual gearbox and now I decided to take it out. I noticed that in my model was installed gearbox with code "CE". After the inspection some "working" elements must be changed, like reverse gear wheel or some others.....(no idea how to call them in English) 
question 1: Where shall I look for the spare parts new or used?
question 2: I have at home a gearbox coded "CO" what are real differences between "CO' and "CE" ?
question 3: . Does anybody know, if "working" elements of "CO" can be used in "CE" as a replacenet ?
Thanks a lot for help
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SGKent 
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Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: CE vs CO gearbox - problems and solutions ? |
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if you have to ask those questions - stay out of the gearbox. It takes special tools.
Nigel posted this in another forum. I cannot vouch for it.
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Re: Is this code for 2L gearbox...
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Post by Nigel A. Skeet » Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:16 pm
Here is the information on VW Type 2 manual transaxles, I have collected to date.
There were at least twelve manual transaxle codes for the 1968~71, 1972~75 & 1976~79 VW 1600 Type 2s; including various combinations of limited-slip differential and higher final-drive ratio for mountainous territories. I have yet to find any official reference to a CO code!?! The CE code, corresponds to a 1972~75 VW Type 2, with orthodox open differential and standard final-drive ratio
There were two manual transaxle codes for the 1974~75 VW 1800 Type 2:
CM - orthodox open differential;
CN - limited-slip differential.
Note that these lists do NOT necessarily include, transaxle details for the 1968 onward, Argentinian, Brazilian & Mexican built vehicles (either Bay-Window models or Bay-Window cum Split-Screen hybrid models), some of which had factory-fitted, VW 1600 Type 1 style engines with twin carburettors, for either fuel-ethanol (high-compression ratio of 10 : 1) or petrol (i.e. gasoline), 1400 cm³ or 1800 cm³ water-cooled VW engines for either fuel-ethanol or petrol (i.e. gasoline) and a water-cooled VW diesel engine of unknown size.
1968~79 VW Type 2, Four-Speed Manual Transaxles
Code Engine M-Code 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Rev. F.D. Years
CA 1600 380 206 126 082 361 5375 1968~71
CB 1600 M92 380 206 126 082 361 5857 1968~71
CC 1600 M220 380 206 126 082 361 5375 1968~71
CD 1600 M92 & M220 380 206 126 082 361 5857 1968~71
CE 1600 380 206 126 082 380 5428 1972~75
CF 1600 M92 380 206 126 082 380 5857 1972~75
CG 1600 M220 380 206 126 082 380 5375 1972~75
CH 1600 M92 & M220 380 206 126 082 380 5857 1972~75
CK 1700 M251 380 206 126 082 380 5375 1972~73
CL 1700 M220, M251 380 206 126 082 380 5375 1972~73
CM 1800 M251 380 206 126 089 380 4857 1974~75
CN 1800 M220, M251 380 206 126 089 380 4857 1974~75
CP 2000 M251 378 206 126 088 328 4571 1976~79
CT 2000 M220, M251 378 206 126 088 328 4571 1976~79
CU 1600 378 206 126 082 328 5428 1976~79
CV 1600 M220 378 206 126 082 328 5428 1976~79
CW 1600 M92 378 206 126 082 328 5857 1976~79
CX 1600 M92 & M220 378 206 126 082 328 5857 1976~79
M92 => Mountain ratio for final drive
M220 => Limited-slip differential
M251 => VW 17/18/2000 Type 4 style engine
Note a possible error regarding the 328 reverse-gear ratio, for manual-transaxle codes CP to CX (i.e. 1976~79 VW 2000 Type 2 & 1976~79 VW 1600 Type 2). According to Stan Wohlfarth, editor of VW-Audi manuals, at Robert Bentley Publishers, in Boston, Massachusetts, USA, who publish the Volkswagen of America, 1968~79 VW Type 2 Service Manual, the USA specification, 1976~79 VW 2000 Type 2's reverse-gear ratio, is 378.
Gear Identity Tooth Ratio Numerical ratio - Precise (Approx.) Engine
1st gear 38 : 10 3800000 (380 to two decimal places) All
2nd gear 35 : 17 2058824 (206 to two decimal places) All
3rd gear 29 : 23 1260870 (126 to two decimal places) All but 2000
3rd gear 63 : 50 1260000 (126 to two decimal places) 2000
4th gear 23 : 28 0821429 (082 to two decimal places) 16/1700
4th gear 24 : 27 0888889 (089 to two decimal places) 1800
4th gear 53 : 60 0883333 (088 to two decimal places) 2000
Reverse gear 20 : 14 x 43 : 17 3613445 (361 to two decimal places) 1600
Reverse gear 20 : 14 x 40 : 15 3809524 (381 to two decimal places) 16/17/1800
Reverse gear 17 : 12 x 40 : 15 3777778 (378 to two decimal places) 16/2000
Final drive 43 : 8 5375000 (5375 to three decimal places)
Final drive 34 : 7 4857143 (4857 to three decimal places)
Final drive 32 : 7 4571429 (4571 to three decimal places) |
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