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TomWesty Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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mandraks wrote: |
always loved these as well. When i was a kid and even as a teenager you could see these everywhere. Being in bavaria we just called them wolperdinger, which is quite funny, really. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolpertinger |
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BusJunky Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2009 Posts: 568 Location: Norwalk, ohio
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vwassing Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2010 Posts: 19 Location: Betuwe, Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:43 am Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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Thank you for the nice replies!
mandraks wrote: |
always loved these as well. When i was a kid and even as a teenager you could see these everywhere. Being in bavaria we just called them wolperdinger, which is quite funny, really. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolpertinger |
I heard a couple of stories from back in the day. The whole combination is a kind of a Wolperdinger... The look on peoples faces when you are driving on the highway is quite the same as if they see one of the creatures in the link
easy e wrote: |
I think finding the trailer is pretty lucky... but, finding the part that goes on the truck bed... very lucky!!
They look great!! Thanks for sharing & nice work! |
We first only saw the trailer but when we spoke to the owner about the framework he remembered that he had something in the backyard. And to our surprise in the backyard the framework was standing against a tree
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cru62 wrote: |
free to swivel AND the bed mount was also free to slide forward & backwards. |
THIS is the part that always confused me ever since I first saw a photo of this setup many years ago. The whole thing made sense, but I could never get a clear shot of what made it actually work.
Money shot right here. You can see how the carriage slides fore and aft in the part that mounts to the truck bed.
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It is difficult to explain how it works (especially if your first language isn't English...) I will give it a try:
The framework in the truck bed consists of three pieces. The outer frame has slats on the bottom opposite of the bed slats on the truck. Those slats keep the outer frame from sliding left or right in the bed. The inner frame has heavy rollers on the four corners and rolls/slides front and back in the outer frame. This to compensate for the difference in swivel points from the trailer and load when you make a turn. On top of the inner frame is a swiveling trestle where you strap the load to. So in the bed of the truck the load slides and swivels!
The trailer is basically a trailer coupling with a 5 meter tube and a basic axle with a frame and also a swiveling trestle. The axle is clamped on the tube with 4 bolts. you can easily loosen the bolts and slide the axle front and back depending on the length of the load.
The surprising bit is that there is very little possibilities to secure the load to. You can only secure the load to the two trestle's and the back trestle is the only one that's fixed in frontal movement. The framework in the bed sits loose. All the photo's i have found show no straps whatsoever.
When you are loading something you have to make sure the combination is standing straight. The inner frame has to be almost completely to at the rear of the outer frame. If you go through a corner the inner frame with load will slide forward. When you go over a bump the inner frame will slide backwards a bit.
Unfortunately i didn't make a video of the system working . I hope this clarifies it a bit!
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crukab Samba Chef
Joined: December 13, 2002 Posts: 6114 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:02 am Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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I like how you can still use it like a regular pick-up when not running the SO trailer part. _________________ Tom
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22568 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:23 am Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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el_safari Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2005 Posts: 375 Location: Nouvelle Aquitaine,France
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:34 am Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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Hello
Seen by my friend Michael
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Who.Me? Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:34 am Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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vwassing wrote: |
I hope this clarifies it a bit! |
I understood the description. It's different to how I'd envisaged it would work based on the photos I've seen. I thought the frame was fixed to the truck bed and the load was only secured to the trailor, so moved forward and back through the 'inner frame' during turns.
Your description shows that VW came up with a solution that caused the least inconvenience to the truck owner. _________________ Andy
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14216 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:04 am Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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vwassing wrote: |
The axle is clamped on the tube with 4 bolts. you can easily loosen the bolts and slide the axle front and back depending on the length of the load. |
This answers as I was wondering if the tongue was adjustable somehow.
Ok, who is going to build one first? |
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Bruce Amacker Samba Member
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ronjonlasvegas Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 897 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:32 am Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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It is amazing that you found it and that it still exists. Congratulations on getting it restored, it turned out really nice. I have seen the original photos years ago and thought it was a cool set up for towing long items. It is really cool that you bring the setup to shows to share with others.
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bus guy Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2002 Posts: 785 Location: Southsea, UK South Coast
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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Outstanding!! |
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7045 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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seems like you would want to be able to secure it to the load bed for empty rides? without cargo, the front slider in the cargo bed would have no reason to stay in place?
Even with the gates up it would slide forwards and backwards?
If you did not have gates it could quite literally fall off?
A simple springloaded bolt and a whole in the cargo bed would go a long way.... _________________ regards
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vwassing Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2010 Posts: 19 Location: Betuwe, Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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el_safari wrote: |
Hello
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Cool, do you know what year it's from? Do you happen to have a picture of the bracket on the back of the tube?
I know that there are some others left. The Bullimuseum in Hessisch Oldendorf has one from 1969. http://www.bullimuseum.eu/anhaenger-wowi.html
And an other guy form the Netherlands has one. Only it is not an original Wolperding but a other version from a German coach builder.
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vwassing Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2010 Posts: 19 Location: Betuwe, Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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mandraks wrote: |
seems like you would want to be able to secure it to the load bed for empty rides? without cargo, the front slider in the cargo bed would have no reason to stay in place?
Even with the gates up it would slide forwards and backwards?
If you did not have gates it could quite literally fall off?
A simple springloaded bolt and a whole in the cargo bed would go a long way.... |
Its not the empty rides I am worried about, as I said the slats keep it form moving left or right. And the framework in the bed weighs quite a bit. I can not lift it on my own, I'm not that strong though . But with the standard drumbrakes stopping is not always the best quality of a split, neither is the acceleration... So my experience is that it does not slide about.
The thing I was worried about with the high load was tipping over the frame and load while making a corner. _________________ 1957 Oval, 1967 Pick-up, 1968 1300, 1968 1200 |
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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hahaha...having a lot of friends in Bavaria I was laughing out loud as well. Wolperding is not a cool name to carry there....
This thing, even if useful and cool, sure looks like a full grown Wolpertinger. It makes a VW truck handle impossible things...
It is so cool that vwassing actually restored this. I was watching in awe the old videos from Barndoor era, using that kind of trailers.
check at 1.40 !
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mandraks wrote: |
always loved these as well. When i was a kid and even as a teenager you could see these everywhere. Being in bavaria we just called them wolperdinger, which is quite funny, really. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolpertinger |
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volkswouter Samba Member
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Who.Me? Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:24 am Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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I figured that it would foul on pickup bows. If worked through the rear hatch of a Kombi, I don't think that's a problem. _________________ Andy
Looking for info on my truck's history. Are you from Campbell California or nearby. Do you recognise it? ... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636786 |
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cdennisg Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:32 am Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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Who.Me? wrote: |
I figured that it would foul on pickup bows. If worked through the rear hatch of a Kombi, I don't think that's a problem. |
Does it say anything in that text about exhaust fumes? VW seemed to be pretty careful about that stuff with hatch seals and tailpipe design. _________________ nothing |
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mandraks Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:58 am Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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cdennisg wrote: |
Who.Me? wrote: |
I figured that it would foul on pickup bows. If worked through the rear hatch of a Kombi, I don't think that's a problem. |
Does it say anything in that text about exhaust fumes? VW seemed to be pretty careful about that stuff with hatch seals and tailpipe design. |
On this page it spells out that the contraption that goes on the loadbed, or inside the bus, just sits there lose, not attached in any way. _________________ regards
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volkswouter Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: The SO14 pick-up and trailer |
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cdennisg wrote: |
Does it say anything in that text about exhaust fumes? VW seemed to be pretty careful about that stuff with hatch seals and tailpipe design. |
I think European rules back in the day where much softer than the American rules. |
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