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phyregod Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2017 Posts: 20 Location: TX
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:18 pm Post subject: Honda Bond instead of transaxle gaskets? Nose cone length? |
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Hey! We're pulling apart a '64 beetle transaxle. Differential, nose cone, etc. Its leaking from pretty much everywhere.
Question 1: Can I use Honda Bond (Honda gasket making sealant goo) instead of gaskets? I'd just do it but I'm not sure if that'll mess up the differential bearing clearances.. I'm a honda enthusiast and I use that stuff here and there. It's what Honda uses from the factory to seal their transmission cases. They never leak. Seems like a better option vs. paper gaskets.
Question 2: I ordered an aftermarket replacement nose cone and it's a little different. It has a threaded plug hole as well as a gasket at the tip of the nose. Seems like a better design for sealing, but the nose is something like 1/2" longer. Will it work? Or will that extra half inch interfere with the shift linkage? |
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joey1320 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2006 Posts: 2325 Location: Cleveland, OH
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Honda Bond instead of transaxle gaskets? Nose cone length? |
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I'm not sure on the extra length but Honda Bond is the best thing ever for leaks. I would use it without the gasket. _________________ **1971 Super Project
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2003 Posts: 4863 Location: Harmony, PA
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Honda Bond instead of transaxle gaskets? Nose cone length? |
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The diff side cover, and axle tube paper gaskets are used to set preloads, so you really need to keep them. You could try putting the sealant on the paper gaskets though. |
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phyregod Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2017 Posts: 20 Location: TX
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Honda Bond instead of transaxle gaskets? Nose cone length? |
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Thanks for the replies!
Any word on the nose cone? It's from IAP, Part number 113301205G. Supposed to fit type 1 61-72. Made in Mexico. Nose is ~half inch longer than stock.
The only way for me to really find out is to put the transmission back and run it through the gears. I don't want to go that far and find out it doesn't work.
It does have a seal on the tip. And my stocker does not. I see a brass bushing kit with the seal. Is the stocker supposed to have a seal at the tip surrounded in brass? It does not. |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2003 Posts: 4863 Location: Harmony, PA
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Honda Bond instead of transaxle gaskets? Nose cone length? |
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Install the nosecone, and shiftrod coupler, and see if it shifts through all the gears. It's been a while since I've messed with anything pre-65, but I don't see why it would not work. If your og nosecone isn't broken, Weddle makes a bushing that accepts a seal.
https://weddleindustries.com/products/1000167/1000698 |
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phyregod Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2017 Posts: 20 Location: TX
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Honda Bond instead of transaxle gaskets? Nose cone length? |
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If the Weddle unit fits, I don't see why this aftermarket nose wouldn't. Good idea, pulling the coupler from the car. |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17288 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Honda Bond instead of transaxle gaskets? Nose cone length? |
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There's no need to test anything. The replacement nose cone you got will work. The extra length of it doesn't interfere with anything. _________________
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phyregod Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2017 Posts: 20 Location: TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Honda Bond instead of transaxle gaskets? Nose cone length? |
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Thanks! |
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EA812 Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2008 Posts: 1223 Location: North central, CT
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61SNRF Samba Member
Joined: March 29, 2009 Posts: 4657 Location: Whittier 90602
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Honda Bond instead of transaxle gaskets? Nose cone length? |
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Be aware early Nosecone gaskets have a portion that covers the mainshaft bearing providing a clamping force to hold the bearing firm. Sealant alone may or may not provide the same desired preload.
# 2 in this photo taken from the Gallery...
If I'm wrong Bruce will correct me! _________________ -Bruce
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17288 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Honda Bond instead of transaxle gaskets? Nose cone length? |
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The nose cone itself will provide the clamping.
I rarely use gaskets anymore.
Here's a tip for better sealing. Throw a sheet of 220 grit on a piece flat glass, then sand the sealing surface of the nose cone. They are always NEVER flat. _________________
overheard at the portland Swap Meet... wrote: |
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