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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:38 am    Post subject: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Hello friends

Here I present to you, my Variant II, a Brazilian national project, which uses 1600 engine, Mcpherson front suspension and IRS rear suspension.

She drove about 218 KM coming home, no problems, is running very well and over time I'm putting her up to date.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Very clean, congrats!! Is this similar to a Brasilia?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
Congratulations!


thanks man!!

vwuberalles wrote:
Very clean, congrats!! Is this similar to a Brasilia?


Thanks vwuberalles!

In some ways yes, I will explain why:

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Brasilia starts having a direct relationship with the Variant II, if I'm not mistaken, in 1978, when they expanded the displacement, they adopted the double carburation and the front suspension of pivot.
Brasília, used the traditional standing engine, with 1600 displacements and double carburation.
The transmission was 8x35 ratio and traditional rear Beattle suspension.
As far as I'm aware, they share rear taillights, bumper, front flashlight (NOTE: only the lens masking is different from model to model)
Among other parcitulariedades that have been applied in the two, and make them share some more pieces.


In Variant II:

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They adopted the use of another position in the engine, in Brazil it is known as engine lying, I do not know what they call elsewhere.
McPherson front suspension and IRS rear suspension.
The transmission was of 8x33 ratio.
Another novelty was the new wheelbase, increased by 9.5 centimeters.
It had production of 78 to 81 and is considered by many, a mistake of the volkswagen. For scholars, the car was a serious mistake for Volkswagen, which could have launched the Variant version of the Passat (the German VW used the name for its vans, which persists to this day), produced more than three years ago. It was said that the choice for Variant II was due to the better efficiency of the rear-wheel drive in muddy climbs.
The production was short lived, because soon after, Volkswagen launched another van in the same category, Parati, which already had a water cooled engine and other technologies considered "new" here,
arriving at 82 and replacing the Variant II.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Cool, thanks for the info! It's fascinating how different parts of the world got totally different models.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

vwuberalles wrote:
Cool, thanks for the info! It's fascinating how different parts of the world got totally different models.


True, always nice to know more about the history of one model or another. Very Happy


Today, I fixed the locks, made a new key and repaired the system, which still works well original.

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In the parking lot of BK:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Really nice shape for its age. Thanks for sharing
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Manfred58sc wrote:
Really nice shape for its age. Thanks for sharing


thanks bro! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Today, I decided to remove the air filter to replace the old oil that was there, clean it and put new oil.

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It also replaces the alternator belt.


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And to finish, she took a shower and was waxed. Razz


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Today was the day to clean the trunk, which was full of trash and very dirty.

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I dismantled the shift lever which was with a very old grease and screwing a lot, like it was sand.
I cleaned everything, new grease and adjusted the lever, it got much better.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

What's up guys.

The Madalena accelerator was too heavy, I was sure something was wrong.

The part that drives the double carburettor was assembled wrongly, the screw that runs through the part, was with a very old and very dirty grease, it was oscillating at idle, because the rod size was wrong and the cable was not completely stretched I stretched the same and now it accelerates everything it gives.

Now the accelerator is very soft, I gave an equalized in the pair, but obviously it is still unregulated, only with a vacuum gauge to make an exact adjustment, but it was much better is walking well.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Very nice. For what it's worth, check where the throttle cable is connected to the bell crank, it appears that it's not rotating freely & could cause the cable to snap at the end ferrule.

And make sure that you install the cover for the generator cooling shroud, you're losing lots of air meant for cooling the engine through there.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

TDCTDI wrote:
Very nice. For what it's worth, check where the throttle cable is connected to the bell crank, it appears that it's not rotating freely & could cause the cable to snap at the end ferrule.

And make sure that you install the cover for the generator cooling shroud, you're losing lots of air meant for cooling the engine through there.



Thanks for the answer TDCTDI!

Following the photos, you can see that I dismounted the same, the screw that makes the circular movement inside the holder,
it was cleaned, added new grease, and as a finish and guarantee that it would not screw into the holder when it was spinning, with a fine sandpaper, carefully removed the thick layer of rust, which in theory would be able to hold the support to the point of being on the accelerator pedal
and be perceptible by driving. Razz

Now it's very light, I think I did not express myself well.

Was that the piece you're saying?

If it is, I will arrange it urgently, unaware of such a function. :/

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:53 am    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Thiago Medeiros wrote:

Was that the piece you're saying?

If it is, I will arrange it urgently, unaware of such a function. :/

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Yes, this is the cover.

Also notice that in this same picture, that the throttle cable end is in a straight line to the cable itself.

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In the picture that you provided of your car, the cable end is at a 45* angle. If this is because cable clamp isn't able to rotate properly, then the cable will fatigue & break at the end.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Nice car, very clean. ..but you forgot to change out the bushing that is in the tunnel just behind the shifter, you change that and it will feel brand new again...also check the coupler at the trans.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Nice car!!! Following...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

I only recently heard about this model, and am fascinated! To fit that Giugiaro-type squared body onto the old backbone Bug/Type 3 style chassis took some ingenuity, and the results are undeniably modern on what is based on a 1930s design.

Then adding he McPherson strut/rack&pinion front end must have done wonders for the "wandering" tendency of the old style steering, about my only complaint about the tough torsion bar setup. It must be fantastic to drive!

It's really too bad this did not catch on. The dependability of the air cooled engine, with Type 3 cooling, coupled with a modern body and front suspension, would be the best VW ever.

I hope more are found. Next time you have it up on a rack, I'd love to see photos of that front suspension and steering setup.

Is the rear swing axles or "IRS" CV-joint? It would be interesting to see one with a full Type 3 automatic...

Congrats on saving a real milestone car!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

That's an interesting car with some cool history! I think I'd do something with the plastic gas lines and filter that's hovering dangerously close to the distributor...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: VW Variant II 1980 - Madalena Reply with quote

Great looking wagon. Never knew of them, now I want one lol.
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