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busmania Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2006 Posts: 1934 Location: Here
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:48 pm Post subject: What have I got myself into? 62 vert find. Rusty! |
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Got a call from my long time car mentor that one of his customers had a free 60 bug convertible. Best part, he was giving it away free! What could go wrong, right? Well, I had a look today and it is crusty as hell. Is this saveable? Rockers gone. Floor gone. Tons of rust. Doors however are perfect and car is very complete. I assume this is too far gone to save? I already agreed to pick it up and hold the title and have to pick it up Saturday. I plan to try and get the motor running and using it in my single cab or rebuild it for my single cab if it’s a non runner. It “ran when parked” of course. Part it or save? I’m a bus guy so I have no idea if because it is a convertible it needs to be saved. If it were a regular bug I’d already have made my mind up. Anyway, here’s pics. Guess I better bust out the plasma cutter eh?!
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mukluk Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7023 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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Seen far worse brought back to restored condition, just takes time and money. I'd say before you fully commit to the idea of sending this one to the big junkyard in the sky, you at least spend a little time cleaning it all out to get a more firm idea of what needs work. _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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rcooled Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2008 Posts: 2502 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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Yes, just about ANYTHING can be brought back from the dead...just depends on how much effort & cash you're willing to commit to it. Good advice from mukluk above...clean it out and see what you've got there before making any decisions. Early convertibles are quite rare...not many 'saveable' ones left out there. _________________ '63 Ragtop (current)
'65 Ghia coupe (totaled)
'67 Ghia convertible (current)
'69.5 Ghia convertible and
'62, '63, '65, '69 Bugs (all long gone) |
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swharris Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2010 Posts: 496 Location: N. Orange County
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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Wow. Is it a beryl green car? That is my holy grail vert for some reason. Not sure why. Just love the '60 especially in that color. Is the top trim, rear tails, back seat there?
Definitely a project, but a worthy one. Not sure there is profit in it. They are spendy to bring back...even if you do all the metal/paint/mechanical.
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busmania Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2006 Posts: 1934 Location: Here
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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rcooled wrote: |
Yes, just about ANYTHING can be brought back from the dead...just depends on how much effort & cash you're willing to commit to it. Good advice from mukluk above...clean it out and see what you've got there before making any decisions. Early convertibles are quite rare...not many 'saveable' ones left out there. |
Interesting. Thank you both. I will clean it up a bit but being that the floors are non existent, ain’t much to clean! Front trunk is pretty clean. Engine is pretty clean. I personally don’t have time to tackle it but figured I’d check here before I bust out the plasma cutter and get to Work. |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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Sure that's not a '61-'62? It has a horizontal keyslot and a gas guage... Obviously a fresh air engine trade (no big deal). I'm feeling Yukon Yellow too. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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Sharp64 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 5304 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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hitest wrote: |
Sure that's not a '61-'62? It has a horizontal keyslot and a gas guage... Obviously a fresh air engine trade (no big deal). I'm feeling Yukon Yellow too. |
Steering wheel looks like 64. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine |
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Bryan67 Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2003 Posts: 2940 Location: Fresno, Ca.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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Just don't open the doors or take it off the pan without thoroughly bracing the body first. _________________ If you`re going to do something, do it right. |
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panicman Samba Member
Joined: December 18, 2011 Posts: 2290 Location: Canby, OR
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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40hp engine, wrong door handles, gas gauge, wrong steering wheel, no trim caps on the inside of the glove box, and I swear when I zoom in I see hood springs, and no hint of a choke knob.
Not a 1960.
Could still be great project, but it looks like years of work and many $thousands$.
That free car will end up costing a fair bit. _________________ Plate of shrimp |
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busmania Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2006 Posts: 1934 Location: Here
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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Title shows 62. I am either going to part of out or move it along mostly whole (minus motor). What’s it worth whole minus motor? |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13846 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:10 am Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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Way to much rust and that car is done. Take what you can and fold up the rest of it. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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EMPIImp69 Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2006 Posts: 3374 Location: Dirty Jersey
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:19 am Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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gt1953 wrote: |
Way to much rust and that car is done. Take what you can and fold up the rest of it. |
Yep, part it out. You'll make more money than selling it whole. Doors, backseat, topframe, engine and decklid will be your big ticket items. _________________ 1963 Ragtop Bug |
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16757 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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Where you are located may impact what you do and what makes the most sense. "Here" doesnt help a lot.
Recapping, early verts are desirable, BUT damn expensive to restore. Yeah - worse has been restored, but you have a car that will cost way more than its worth. Having a 1/2 decent shop tackle that will be in the upper 20s at minimum. Would actually say closer to 30... Total hack with a couple gallons of bondo would still be in the mid teens.
So - it gets down to what your goal is...Make as much money as you can or try to save the car? The top fame would easily be worth several hundred, doors, trunk and decklid are worth some money if decent. And a pan with a title is worth a few hundred. You should be able to walk away with a grand pretty easily.
Selling the car as is....maybe $500. Just my 2 cents. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them... |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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I don't know where "here" is, but around my version of here, it's worth probably closer to $1k in parts because it's early. The windows, regs, frames, top frame are all early. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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splitjunkie Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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You would be crazy to cut that car up.
These old VWs are getting harder and harder to come by every day. The value on early cars continues to go up not down. Verts in particular going up in value and what constitutes an early car keeps moving up as well. Early 60's cars are now becoming more and more valuable and desirable as the number of 50's cars continue to shrink and will only continue to go up in value.
You got the thing for free. Find a buyer who is has the skills and or money to restore it _________________ Chris
You know, a lot of these scratches will buff right out... Jerry Seinfeld |
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busmania Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2006 Posts: 1934 Location: Here
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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Brought it home today. More pics below. One question, how do I get the front hood up?
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13846 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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Here is nowhere. I am here also, but I do list my location. That car is junk. My goodness busmania you must be like that people at the Barrett Jackson auction with off shore accounts deep deep deep pockets. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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busmania Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2006 Posts: 1934 Location: Here
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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gt1953 wrote: |
Here is nowhere. I am here also, but I do list my location. That car is junk. My goodness busmania you must be like that people at the Barrett Jackson auction with off shore accounts deep deep deep pockets. |
It was free! I intend to move it along or part it out. I don’t have the time or skill to fix it myself. It is unfortunately very roached out unless your the flinstones.
I’m in Denver.
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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gt1953 wrote: |
Here is nowhere. I am here also, but I do list my location. That car is junk. My goodness busmania you must be like that people at the Barrett Jackson auction with off shore accounts deep deep deep pockets. |
The car was free so he's probably in it for whatever it cost to move it. |
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busmania Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2006 Posts: 1934 Location: Here
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: What have I gotten myself into....? |
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Pruneman99 wrote: |
gt1953 wrote: |
Here is nowhere. I am here also, but I do list my location. That car is junk. My goodness busmania you must be like that people at the Barrett Jackson auction with off shore accounts deep deep deep pockets. |
The car was free so he's probably in it for whatever it cost to move it. |
$54 to rent a trailer plus lunch for my buddy who helped move it. I’ve been looking for a motor to build (or use as is) for my bus so the timing couldn’t really have been better. |
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