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puu Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2014 Posts: 25
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:11 pm Post subject: Seeking solar knowledge |
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I can change a lightbulb - but have no clue about solar and the math that comes with it.
I have an aux battery (was installed with GW solenoid kid) under the driver seat and would like to keep this now charged with a solar panel, without overcharging it!
It also would be nice if it can charge my electric scooter battery, again without overcharging it! (the AC adapter reads a power output 29.4V - 1.55 A and batteries need up to 2.5 hours to be fully charged).
Since all my 86 vanagon space is so limited I have not found a small space pure sine inverter to charge my laptop and that can run also a hand blender and coffee maker.
Just wonder if it makes sense and there is a way charging the scooter directly without going over the aux battery.
Of course ideal would be a fold able solar panel I can put out in the sun with a build in inverter where I can attach a wire to the aux battery and a plug for my scooter.
Is it less pricey to put things together myself? And if YES, what do I need to do so to not overcharge my aux and scooter?
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parker007 Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2011 Posts: 132 Location: california
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Seeking solar knowledge |
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need to run solar panel wires to charge controller then to battery. without controller panel drain battery when no sun or overcharge, |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6572 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Seeking solar knowledge |
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How many amp hours is the battery?
Lead acid or AGM?
I mention this because when we had only one 100aH AGM battery that was down to the mid-11 volt range -- they say 11.4 volts is the "safe bottom" charge before further discharge he can harm it -- "someone" fired up our blender and killed the battery. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
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Paulbeard Samba Member
Joined: July 10, 2015 Posts: 2604 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Seeking solar knowledge |
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I'd skip the inverter and get a 12v charger for your laptop: cheaper anyway.
You need a charge controller for the solar panel, of which there are many choices. I went with this one. You need a solar panel. The charge controller takes care of the battery charging.
I assume you have a charger for the scooter: if so, it should manage the charging there. We need more info on how you connect it. Is there a 12V option for it? Or will you need an inverter just for that? _________________ Currently -> Frida: 87 Tizian Red (mostly) Vanagon GL Westfalia w/ 2.0L ABA conversion
Formerly -> Steward of a 73 Super Beetle (Beater) and 67 Beetle 1300 (Little Max) both names by POs
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fxr Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2014 Posts: 2325 Location: Bay area CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Seeking solar knowledge |
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You can get a USB chargeable blender - Mrs fxr has just bought one.
I think this is it:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y5X88QH _________________ Jim Crowther
1984 1.9l EJ22 Westy Wolfsburg Edition
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puu Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2014 Posts: 25
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Seeking solar knowledge |
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E1 wrote: |
How many amp hours is the battery?
Lead acid or AGM?
I mention this because when we had only one 100aH AGM battery that was down to the mid-11 volt range -- they say 11.4 volts is the "safe bottom" charge before further discharge he can harm it -- "someone" fired up our blender and killed the battery. |
Thank you all so much for your input!!!
My Battery: From Napa type 7541
Brand: Duracell Ultra
Voltage: 12
Format: BCI Group 41
Lead Acid Type: Starting
Cold Cranking Amps: 650
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puu Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2014 Posts: 25
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Seeking solar knowledge |
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Paulbeard wrote: |
I'd skip the inverter and get a 12v charger for your laptop: cheaper anyway.
You need a charge controller for the solar panel, of which there are many choices. I went with this one. You need a solar panel. The charge controller takes care of the battery charging.
I assume you have a charger for the scooter: if so, it should manage the charging there. We need more info on how you connect it. Is there a 12V option for it? Or will you need an inverter just for that? |
Many thanks!
How can I charge my electric scooter battery from a solar panel without overcharging it! (the AC adapter I use so far to charge the Lithium Battery pack for the scooter reads a power output 29.4V - 1.55 A and batteries need up to 2.5 hours to be fully charged). There is no 12 Volt option on the adapter. |
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Paulbeard Samba Member
Joined: July 10, 2015 Posts: 2604 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Seeking solar knowledge |
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puu wrote: |
Many thanks!
How can I charge my electric scooter battery from a solar panel without overcharging it! (the AC adapter I use so far to charge the Lithium Battery pack for the scooter reads a power output 29.4V - 1.55 A and batteries need up to 2.5 hours to be fully charged). There is no 12 Volt option on the adapter. |
What kind of scooter/battery? _________________ Currently -> Frida: 87 Tizian Red (mostly) Vanagon GL Westfalia w/ 2.0L ABA conversion
Formerly -> Steward of a 73 Super Beetle (Beater) and 67 Beetle 1300 (Little Max) both names by POs
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pushkick Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2007 Posts: 1366
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Seeking solar knowledge |
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you might look at this morningstar for a solar charge controller they will charge your van battery and your solar battery and maybe your electric scooter
https://www.amazon.com/Morningstar-SSD-25-Sunsaver...r+sunsaver
and these dc to dc charge controllers they can work on any battery this way you dont have to buy an inverter
https://www.powerstream.com/DC-input-chargers.htm _________________ i see said the blind man to his deaf dog
i am going to quit smoking and drinking and die a healthy man. gotta laugh
there is no deed to the planet earth
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6572 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Seeking solar knowledge |
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puu wrote: |
E1 wrote: |
How many amp hours is the battery?
Lead acid or AGM?
I mention this because when we had only one 100aH AGM battery that was down to the mid-11 volt range -- they say 11.4 volts is the "safe bottom" charge before further discharge he can harm it -- "someone" fired up our blender and killed the battery. |
Thank you all so much for your input!!!
My Battery: From Napa type 7541
Brand: Duracell Ultra
Voltage: 12
Format: BCI Group 41
Lead Acid Type: Starting
Cold Cranking Amps: 650
Hope this helps |
You're welcome.
Sorry, I meant "What's the amp-hour rating of the battery?" Mine are 100aH (amp-hour) each, cold cranking amps is about 1,100 each. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
— Colin Chapman |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9939 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Seeking solar knowledge |
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His battery is just a standard car type Group 41 starting battery, so no specs given for AH.
Those are usually around 60 AH, some more, some less.
https://www.batteriesplus.com/replacement/battery/everstart/41=4/sli41
For DC input charging the scooter I don't see anything in the PowerStream product line to do 29.4v LI battery charging from a 12 volt source. Maybe I missed it.
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6572 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:44 am Post subject: Re: Seeking solar knowledge |
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Thanks, Mark.
An aside... Batteries Plus is one fabulous chain, highly recommended. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
— Colin Chapman |
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