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morgan8899
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 Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:07 am Post subject: How to fix bad body work |
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How should I fix this surprise? I uncovered it after sand blasting. I was thinking I should cut it out, flatten it, then weld it back in. Or even replace with new metal.
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sputnick60
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crazy tarzan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:22 am Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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I'd cut that out and weld new in.
That's going to take a lot of work to reshape and fix. Welding in new is only going to take the work welding causes. |
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CiderGuy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:28 am Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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| crazy tarzan wrote: |
I'd cut that out and weld new in.
That's going to take a lot of work to reshape and fix. Welding in new is only going to take the work welding causes. |
I agree I think its your only option. Never cut anything until you have the replacement panel in hand.
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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Or buy another shell & let someone else have they joy of repairing that.
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Mellow Yellow 74
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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You could remove that quarter panel and repair a lot of that damage using a hammer and dolly but it would still have all the slide hammer holes you would need to weld up. However this would be a lot of work and if you are going to the trouble of removing and replacing the quarter you would be better off finding a decent used quarter panel.
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Evil_Fiz
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:39 am Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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| Mellow Yellow 74 wrote: |
| You could remove that quarter panel and repair a lot of that damage using a hammer and dolly but it would still have all the slide hammer holes you would need to weld up. However this would be a lot of work and if you are going to the trouble of removing and replacing the quarter you would be better off finding a decent used quarter panel. |
Goo d point but it also presents a good practice opportunity if you don't yet poses metal working skills. Replace the quarter as suggested and then use the removed piece for practice. Once straight, you could sell it or "part it forward."
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Loren
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:37 am Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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| What year is your Ghia? I have a 63 quarter panel that needs work, but it might work for your project and I don't want much for it. It includes the inner fender too. PM me if you are interested. |
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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Is there a "before" photo by chance?
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morgan8899
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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| Thank you all for your reply's. I attempted using a stud welder and pulling, but there is way to much damage to continue. I will be cutting that section out later this month I'll let you know how that works |
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kman
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| Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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I'd fix it only cause I'm that stubborn. Cut the entire panel out. Use a sandbag and sheet metal bossing mallets back and forth with hammer/dolly work. Test fit often after repairing the interior panel. You will have to do some heat shrinking. Welding up the holes will do some of that. Keep at it till you get there. Or buy a new panel but it's all metal in the end.
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morgan8899
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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I purchased a replacement panel from a shop in CA and welded in the replacement.
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Mellow Yellow 74
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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Looks much better
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kiwighia68
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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Contact Dan Storgaard (NWGHIAGUY) if I remember correctly) for good replacement panels. He's not to far from you and utterly reliable and his parts are affordable.
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morgan8899
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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| Thank you. i’ll keep that info handy. All of the patch panel work is finished. It’s time for leading and bondo to smooth it out. |
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carguytroy
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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| Looks great. Done a lot of metal work on a 66 Mustang I had. Have a 67 Convert that needs a ton too. Great job! |
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jeffrey8164 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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I want a welder!
It seems as if I could do cool stuff with a welder.
But then I’d need a torch with a bunch of different attachments, a plasma cutter, a pneumatic nipper, a break and probably a lathe too.
Anything I’m forgetting? Oh! A hammer and dolly set.
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Evil_Fiz
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| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:32 am Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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| jeffrey8164 wrote: |
| ...Anything I’m forgetting? Oh! A hammer and dolly set. |
... and an english wheel, planishing hammer, bead roller, bossing hammer, shrinking stump, leather sand bag, shriner-stretcher, slapper spoons, vice mount shaping dollies, fixturing jigs, dead flap and level welding table, drill press, band saw, and a 24 x 30 workshop to spread-out in.
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jeffrey8164
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| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:45 am Post subject: Re: How to fix bad body work |
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Well I have one of these, so I’m almost there.  ]
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