Van in gear will not move

[gears]

Almost every "how to" regarding CV replacement on the Porsche chat boards (using the identical bolt and torque spec) mentions the importance of clean & dry threads, so I figured I'd pass along what they recommend.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technic...oints.html
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[Sodo]

That's because the grease in the CV environment is a "moly lube", the worst kind of grease to have when you want thread locking. And its for the customer to drive away, never to be seen again (for this issue, as the shop wishes).

The attentive vanagon owner can check and re-torque after 100 miles if necessary.

[dobryan]

Be careful of the CV’s
on full
axle
sets. Many are
not Lobro.
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[elizer]

[Wildthings]

[Jon_slider]

[Sodo]

[Aryana]

[djkeev]

[elizer]

Sodo - Gonna be rebuilding the old cvs to have as spares.
Also I ordered from Van cafe I think shipping might be a little slower. I went with the lobro front axle assemblies and the 944 rear.

Dave - I think I will go ahead and take apart the joints and take a look. When people polish up the joints do they just use a 1000grit paper or a dremel ?

What is the CV grease of choice? I have used lucas brand grease for my motorcycle and I honestly have no way of knowing its effectiveness over the factory grease.

Jon- I think I will go with that assembly set up. So basically installl the new cv with the old hardware. Remove, clean, and replace with new hardware.

I was planning on an engine conversion this winter so I am really hoping the transaxle is good because I was planning on doing a rebuild when I did the conversion and adding a decoupler. If the vc is the issue I was thinking about pulling the driveshaft going rwd this season until winter.

[Jon_slider]

sounds like you are making great progress

we have @gears to thank for the dry fastener link, and I have absolute respect for anything he says

verify if you need/want 12 point fasteners, (I prefer them over 6 point), for the 944 joints, and the appropriate driver.. they are longer, and iirc the 944 joint is thicker.. confirm and verify with a professional

and imo, absolutely Yes to adding a decoupler to your Syncro.
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[elizer]

Jon Wilco.

When I get them in I will take a look and see what I need to make sure this goes as smoothly as possible. Hopefully ill get my order from rmw so I am shooting for a weekend install. We have been having freakishly warm weather in the mid atlantic and I hope it carries over for the install. I just got some 12 points and hope they work. If not I will figure it out.

I actually want to thank all you guys. Every ones input helps me and I really appreciate it.

[elizer]

I ordered new axles from VC/RMW on the 20th. They are still trying to get their warehouse in order so doesn't look like ill be getting to it this weekend or even the next. I have drill next weekend as well so Probably looking at about 2 weeks for me to even get to putting in the rears.

If I have a VC issue I might end up pulling the drive shaft. I was thinking about doing the FAS 2.0t engine conversion this fall (in house install). I was going to get the transaxle rebuilt add decoupler/oiling plates and upgrade as much as I can on it. so I thought I could at least go 2wd this Summer and at least be able to have some camping adventures.

[elizer]

I got my package and finally got around to opening it up. The box came beat to hell but everything inside survived. My ups guy has to hate me. It was well over 70 lbs. It came with the RMW cookie which I will be eating as dessert tonight (reviews to come).

I went with the 944 rear. We have amazingly warm front this weekend but of course 90% rain so the rear replacements will have to wait for now. Really ready to replace the rear so I can start figuring stuff out. Anyways just an update have a good weekend all.

[elizer]

Little Update...

Well life got in the way and I finally got around to getting addressing the CV that fell off the driver outboard side. I started 2 weeks ago... realized they weren't 12 point ... ordered some hex on amazon. Then got bad weather/reserve annual training.

Today was the first good day I had off with good enough weather to get under neath it. Got the axle out and cleaned everything up and realized that 3 of the bolts broke off inside. So now I am off to lowes to get something to extend the drill bit so I can try to extract them.

Djkeev - Looks like they have schoor washers on them. Guessing the other 3 weren't torqued down properly and backed out... and the remaining 3 tried to hold on for dear life.

I will post some pictures up later hopefully I can get it out before it gets too dark out. Working on the side of the road in front of the house isn't the same as it was when I was 18 and im only 32. The enthusiasm and glamour just isn't the same anymore lol.

Back in a few hours either happy or really pissed.

[Zeitgeist 13]

I would use a left hand drill bit, as those bolts should come out quite easily without any torque holding them in place.
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[IdahoDoug]

Well good luck from a 57 year old that will be out in a junk yard on a rainy day unbolting parts from a Supra for our new project car. So I hope you shot some penetrating oil into the stubs to help you with the loosening and agree with the reverse bit. There are also a number of extraction tools that seem suited to this - a relatively easy job since you can clean out the other end of the threads with a pick and brake cleaner straw, then shoot penetrating oil there also. Best.
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[Wildthings]

Yes try a left hand drill. If the bolts don't back out on their own while being drilled, once the holes are deep enough to accept a torx bit a bit large than the bit, hammer the torx bit into the hole and screw the broken piece out. You probably wouldn't need to drill the hole deep enough to use a normal extractor, for as mentioned there is no torque holding the bolts in place any more.