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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:20 pm Post subject: New German Brake Booster |
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I want a brand new booster - preferably VW. My rebuild from last year is leaking again already. I've been poking around looking for options and was considering the VW Brazilian version that requires some modifications. I was just about to pull the trigger when I stumbled upon what claims to be a new German VW unit at CIP1:
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-211-612-103
I ordered one. I'll let you know if it's the real deal. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:47 am Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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What's does " Original German or equivalent " mean?
_________________ .ssS! |
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BayCreamPuff Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2015 Posts: 769 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:15 am Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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It’s ATE which is OEM. Super high quality bolt on replacement. I’ve had mine for over a year with no complaints. _________________ Cream Puff
'79 CA Stock FI Deluxe Campmobile
Earl Grey
'87 GoWesty 2.2 Westfalia
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BayCreamPuff Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2015 Posts: 769 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:37 am Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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Here’s the 2017 Ate Classics Catalog
http://www.ate-brakes.com/media/3176/ate-classic-c5-2017.pdf
Catalog page 448 (PDF 552) _________________ Cream Puff
'79 CA Stock FI Deluxe Campmobile
Earl Grey
'87 GoWesty 2.2 Westfalia
Marsha Mellow
'00 Eurovan VR6 Full Camper |
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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:49 am Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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Abscate wrote: |
What's does " Original German or equivalent " mean?
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That's just their rating system - not the part description. Hope BayCreamPuff is right and it's ATE. That would be good. Will report back once I get it. |
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samwise Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2010 Posts: 611 Location: North Salt Lake, Utah
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:51 am Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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There's some strange stuff in that catalog, like clutch master and slave cylinders for our buses - when did they get hydraulic clutches? Hmm, the hydraulic clutch bits go from 05/79 to 07/79 - I wonder if they were for very early Vanagons?
Looks like servos, master cylinders, brake rotors, brake pads, calipers, brake shoes, brake drums, brake hoses, parking brake cables and clutch cables all being made by ATE again - to quote the catalog:
Continental’s new ATE Classic product family allows classic car enthusiasts to carry out professional brake repairs with parts that match the originals
Very good news for the entire classic car sector if they are remaking to original quality!
Interestingly, I didn't know that there was a different parking brake cable set up from June '79 to the end of production (different to 08/75-05/79, according to the catalog), a different servo from 05/79 to end of production _________________ Ben
1979 7-passenger bus
Harvee the Wonder Bus' pics |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:12 am Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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Dynamite_Goat wrote: |
Abscate wrote: |
What's does " Original German or equivalent " mean?
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That's just their rating system - not the part description. Hope BayCreamPuff is right and it's ATE. That would be good. Will report back once I get it. |
Pulling for ya!!!
I should post "I hope it sucks, but that might be confusing..." _________________ .ssS! |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8700 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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70Crew Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2006 Posts: 776 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8700 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21520 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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samwise wrote: |
There's some strange stuff in that catalog, like clutch master and slave cylinders for our buses - when did they get hydraulic clutches? Hmm, the hydraulic clutch bits go from 05/79 to 07/79 - I wonder if they were for very early Vanagons?
Looks like servos, master cylinders, brake rotors, brake pads, calipers, brake shoes, brake drums, brake hoses, parking brake cables and clutch cables all being made by ATE again - to quote the catalog:
Continental’s new ATE Classic product family allows classic car enthusiasts to carry out professional brake repairs with parts that match the originals
Very good news for the entire classic car sector if they are remaking to original quality!
Interestingly, I didn't know that there was a different parking brake cable set up from June '79 to the end of production (different to 08/75-05/79, according to the catalog), a different servo from 05/79 to end of production |
Yes....the hydraulic slaves and mastera are Vanagon. Of course....not the first for an ACVW.....as the 411 and 412 cars had hydraulic clutches from 1968 to 1975. Ray |
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kreemoweet Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2008 Posts: 3899 Location: Seattle, WA
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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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Got my booster today - it's the real deal - German ATE and perfect in every respect. Not the cheapest option but worth the extra money IMHO.
BayCreamPuff nailed it with the early call. |
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WendyArmbuster Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2006 Posts: 330 Location: Springfield, MO
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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I followed the link, but it is already out of stock, and they don't show the price. I was set to buy too. How much was it?
EDIT: Cancel that. I found the price in the middle of what appears to be a banner ad. _________________ Brian Z
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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:50 am Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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WendyArmbuster wrote: |
I followed the link, but it is already out of stock, and they don't show the price. I was set to buy too. How much was it?
EDIT: Cancel that. I found the price in the middle of what appears to be a banner ad. |
That sucks. It was $299 w/free shipping. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:52 am Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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I bought them all like a little brake booster troll, and I am storing them under by Bridge.... _________________ .ssS! |
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Hoody Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1948
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:00 am Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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The Bus Depot is showing them in stock. Same price. |
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tommu Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2011 Posts: 618 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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And never any response from WW.. _________________ |
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WendyArmbuster Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2006 Posts: 330 Location: Springfield, MO
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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Hoody wrote: |
The Bus Depot is showing them in stock. Same price. |
The pictures look different, and the Bus Depot description says I will have to redrill my mounting plate. It could be that the CIP one requires a redrill as well, but they just don't say it, and the photos could just be representational. I don't know. _________________ Brian Z
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BayCreamPuff Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2015 Posts: 769 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: New German Brake Booster |
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WendyArmbuster wrote: |
Hoody wrote: |
The Bus Depot is showing them in stock. Same price. |
The pictures look different, and the Bus Depot description says I will have to redrill my mounting plate. It could be that the CIP one requires a redrill as well, but they just don't say it, and the photos could just be representational. I don't know. |
The one that requires drilling is not Ate. It's "genuine vw of brazil" and it has a different bolt pattern. Bus depot used to carry the Ate one, but I don't see it anymore. _________________ Cream Puff
'79 CA Stock FI Deluxe Campmobile
Earl Grey
'87 GoWesty 2.2 Westfalia
Marsha Mellow
'00 Eurovan VR6 Full Camper |
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