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XXX-1.8T Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:39 pm Post subject: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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Hi,
Im thinking of installing a deck lid rack for shows etc.
I dont want to damage the vents on the rear.
To be certain no damage will be made what tips and tricks have people used to stop damage?
Is it certain i will damage the rear vents on my bug?
The rack came with rubber gaskets for the vents will this be enough to stop damage to the vents?
Here's a pic of my bug:
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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Plan on scratching the inside edges of each part of blue paint with which the rack hardware comes in contact.
Know that if you painstakingly install it with pads under and on each part of hardware that contacts the car you will have a display-only rack. Because...
As soon as you strap your early 50s-era luggage (because people always put case on their car that's much older than the car) you will begin stressing the rack. This likely will deform your intake vents slightly. Rack rubs through your pads and into paint as well. _________________
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XXX-1.8T Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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hitest wrote: |
Plan on scratching the inside edges of each part of blue paint with which the rack hardware comes in contact.
Know that if you painstakingly install it with pads under and on each part of hardware that contacts the car you will have a display-only rack. Because...
As soon as you strap your early 50s-era luggage (because people always put case on their car that's much older than the car) you will begin stressing the rack. This likely will deform your intake vents slightly. Rack rubs through your pads and into paint as well. |
Thank you what if i plan on putting luggage at the show and not driving with the luggage on the back?
Will this stop damage occurring or will the rack itself on the back cause damage?
Is there any sort of vinyl tape i can put around each vent to minimize any sort of damage? |
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HippyTom Samba Member
Joined: December 18, 2013 Posts: 676 Location: Florida, West Pasco
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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Beautiful car!!!! I think any rack will detract from car. It's clean and very well done.
If racks and accessories are your thing, why not a roof rack? |
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XXX-1.8T Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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Thank you.
I had a roof rack a few years ago and the legs damaged the top of my doors.
Hence why i decided to go for a deck lid luggage rack
But didnt think of Vent damage
I was think of applying this on the vents to protect it:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3M-Bicycle-Protection-...2270089183 |
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HippyTom Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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I've had roof racks on and off of my 63 for years and never had any damage from them. I took one off today that has been on a few weeks and no damage at all. It's interesting that you did.
The bike film may work. Only one way to find out. |
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XXX-1.8T Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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HippyTom wrote: |
I've had roof racks on and off of my 63 for years and never had any damage from them. I took one off today that has been on a few weeks and no damage at all. It's interesting that you did.
The bike film may work. Only one way to find out. |
But have you used a deck lid rack before?
Maybe it was the type of roof rack i had?
Anyways keen to hear from other Deck lid owners.
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Bryan67 Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2003 Posts: 2942 Location: Fresno, Ca.
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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I can`t stand roofracks, decklid racks, or any other non original VW accessories. But then, I`m a hardcore old school Cal Look guy. But why put a crappy repro rack and a bunch of crap on the rack anyway? They WILL scratch you paint A judged car show judge should knock points off for that kind of stuff anyway. _________________ If you`re going to do something, do it right. |
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XXX-1.8T Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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Bryan67 wrote: |
I can`t stand roofracks, decklid racks, or any other non original VW accessories. But then, I`m a hardcore old school Cal Look guy. But why put a crappy repro rack and a bunch of crap on the rack anyway? They WILL scratch you paint A judged car show judge should knock points off for that kind of stuff anyway. |
I dont enter the car where its judged to win etc just more of those charity type shows.
Thanks for your opinion |
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HippyTom Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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XXX-1.8T wrote: |
HippyTom wrote: |
I've had roof racks on and off of my 63 for years and never had any damage from them. I took one off today that has been on a few weeks and no damage at all. It's interesting that you did.
The bike film may work. Only one way to find out. |
But have you used a deck lid rack before?
Maybe it was the type of roof rack i had?
Anyways keen to hear from other Deck lid owners. |
I've never used a decklid rack, but I've considered it. I've had a roof rack on my 62 for many years and occasionally would put it in my 63. I just bought one for my 63 (from a buddy, I got a great deal) but won't leave it on. Just use it occasionally for actual functionality (I think my 63 looks better without it). Both of mine have clear plastic tubing over the feet. You can replace it easily and even put felt over top of it. I put thick tape over the metal clamps to pad the door frame also. Never had a problem.
I don't know how much pressure the decklid clamps put on the vents, but I would think you can adequately cushion it with something.
Get the rack and experiment with rubber and felt cushioning until you find something that works. Racks are easy to put on and take off when you want to change the look. |
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Bryan67 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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One more thing to think about. Especially if you have a stock engine. If the engine catches on fire, good luck getting the rack unloaded and off of the car in time. _________________ If you`re going to do something, do it right. |
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HippyTom Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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I preface this with I don't have personal experience with one, but have seen decklid opened with a rack. They are hinged to allow opening of the lid. I do not know how they are attached at the bumper bracket for quick release, but I imagine one could make a quick release cotter pin set-up fairly easily if it doesn't come that way. I would think they are designed for accesses to the motor.
This pic shows an open lid with a loaded rack (just one suitcase it appears).
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XXX-1.8T Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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HippyTom wrote: |
XXX-1.8T wrote: |
HippyTom wrote: |
I've had roof racks on and off of my 63 for years and never had any damage from them. I took one off today that has been on a few weeks and no damage at all. It's interesting that you did.
The bike film may work. Only one way to find out. |
But have you used a deck lid rack before?
Maybe it was the type of roof rack i had?
Anyways keen to hear from other Deck lid owners. |
I've never used a decklid rack, but I've considered it. I've had a roof rack on my 62 for many years and occasionally would put it in my 63. I just bought one for my 63 (from a buddy, I got a great deal) but won't leave it on. Just use it occasionally for actual functionality (I think my 63 looks better without it). Both of mine have clear plastic tubing over the feet. You can replace it easily and even put felt over top of it. I put thick tape over the metal clamps to pad the door frame also. Never had a problem.
I don't know how much pressure the decklid clamps put on the vents, but I would think you can adequately cushion it with something.
Get the rack and experiment with rubber and felt cushioning until you find something that works. Racks are easy to put on and take off when you want to change the look. |
Yep will do thanks for the suggestion.
Ill be super careful and use extra cushioning on the vents.
Also will not drive with it under load so fingers crossed nothing gets scratched or bent |
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grimrides Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:38 am Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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Bryan67 wrote: |
I can`t stand roofracks, decklid racks, or any other non original VW accessories. But then, I`m a hardcore old school Cal Look guy. But why put a crappy repro rack and a bunch of crap on the rack anyway? They WILL scratch you paint A judged car show judge should knock points off for that kind of stuff anyway. |
My Dad and his friend Jerry hated them! Just hated them. |
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Bryan67 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:46 am Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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Your Dad sounds like my kind of guy. I wish I could have met him. _________________ If you`re going to do something, do it right. |
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HippyTom Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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Roof racks are loud as hell going down the road. I like it on my 62, but not my 63. Strange. But when you're going to an all day car show taking your family with a big cooler full of food and drinks, canopy, and 4 chairs, etc it sure comes in handy. And they are easy to change. I've taken a bunch of stuff to a car show on one and then took it off at the show.
Get it and see what you think. If you like it, that's all that matters. I'm interested in seeing a pic of your car with it. |
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grimrides Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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Bryan67 wrote: |
Your Dad sounds like my kind of guy. I wish I could have met him. |
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panicman Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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Well, THAT took a dark turn toward the ‘very strange’.
I wanted to add that my ‘60 wears an original VW roofrack, and I was very nervous about damage, because I had new paint. I used clear plastic tubing on the roof rack’s feet, and for the clamps, I dipped them into plastidip several times to build a thick coat.
Several years later, no damage whatsoever. _________________ Plate of shrimp |
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Sharp64 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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HippyTom wrote: |
Roof racks are loud as hell going down the road. . |
I think the ones with the slats parallel to the windshield are loud. The ones with slats that run front to back arents as much. Or at least I havent noticed any noise from it. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
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Murt Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:02 am Post subject: Re: Decklid Luggage Rack Deck Damage? |
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Hi Triple X
Have you looked at these type ? Keeps it away from the louvres, and the decklid
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