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Vee Dub Nut
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Vee Dub Nut's 74 Bay Transporter (& Subaru EJ25 Swap) Reply with quote

fokker100 wrote:
Awesome pics, a beautiful bus!

Thatís good news that Lanner is working on a late bay conversion, he should upgrade the brakes in the rear as well, as I honestly donít know what to put there, his knowledge will be awesome.
Do you plan to upgrade the rear as well?
I know the original brakes are amazing on the bus, but sometimes the way we drive those nowadays, I wonít be unhappy to put discs in place of drums one day with this kind of engine and mountain driving.


Thank you for the compliments!

As for the rear, I do plan to swap to disc there too. I had originally planned to DIY something after getting these fronts done, but after talking with Lanner, he's planning a rear disk kit for bays that uses rear Cayman parts that has an integral parking brake setup inside the rotor. He's hoping to get that dialed in over the winter, so I think I'm going to sit tight a bit and see how that pans out. He's already aware of my interest in the kit Laughing

As for the necessity of rear disks, that's certainly debatable. I can confidently say that the stock rear drums and front Cayman setup is VERY MUCH a capable combo. I had to do a quick panic type stop this past weekend while cruising home from the ATL meetup. Was admittedly distracted watching a bicyclist that was coming across the road at an angle towards me from the opposite late, and when he got clear (he came around behind me) I looked ahead only to realize everyone was completely stopped in the middle of the road for something else up ahead. I had to jump all over the brakes and pulled it all down in a hurry. Pretty impressive response in the brakes TBH. Dude on the bicycle ended up riding back up past me and was like "nice stop" Rolling Eyes Glad I didn't end up plowing the back of that Toyota Camry Embarassed

But you are right though, the way we drive these now (and the way others drive around us), its not a bad idea to have greater capability. I know the rest of my powertrain is significantly higher performing than the stock parts, so why wouldn't I make the brakes the same? Regardless of how good the stock stuff might have been in its day.

The biggest advantage to me in going disk in the rear too are brakes that don't need to be adjusted, again have better heat capacity, etc, etc. Plus they would look the part better behind those big old Porsche wheels Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Vee Dub Nut's 74 Bay Transporter (& Subaru EJ25 Swap) Reply with quote

Fantastic! And great news that Lanner has a late Bay. I should really contact him about doing similar with our 5x112 wheels. I'll throw in some interest for 4 wheel upgrade too... (Skills is likely sharing his head at me now...) 😀

Where did you source your calipers? New? Remanufactured?

Happy driving!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: Vee Dub Nut's 74 Bay Transporter (& Subaru EJ25 Swap) Reply with quote

Ride_On wrote:
Fantastic! And great news that Lanner has a late Bay. I should really contact him about doing similar with our 5x112 wheels. I'll throw in some interest for 4 wheel upgrade too... (Skills is likely sharing his head at me now...) 😀

Where did you source your calipers? New? Remanufactured?

Happy driving!


The 5x112 would be the tough part. All the Porsche parts are 5x130, so to do similar with 5x112 would require a full custom machined front hub, redrilled rotors, etc, etc. That's basically what Nate/Wagenswest brakes kits are, just with Wilwoods.

For my calipers, I went new. Let me tell you, be prepared for sticker shock. Reman is an option that can save a few bucks, but at least when I was looking (and even now), there are no reman calipers available on the market. These calipers are a very popular swap for a ton of different cars, so I think used ones get snatched up pretty quick, meaning there isn't a lot of cores for Cardone/etc to get their hands on to reman. Another options is take offs found on Ebay, pick-n-pulls, etc. Even those can be pretty pricey. The low cost ones sell very quickly. With some good hunting though, deals can be found. For me, I just bit the bullet and bought new.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Vee Dub Nut's 74 Bay Transporter (& Subaru EJ25 Swap) Reply with quote

I'd be interested in a rear kit. Ive been thinking about trying to find some different compound front pads to test out on my stock system.

My brakes are gone through and operating correctly and work great for maybe about the first couple seconds in a panic situation. After that is frightening.

I've never driven another car that has the brake fade that a bus has. After a few seconds in a hard stop and it seems like they lose 50% of their power. After that, they cool off and you are good to go again. But damn, I'd like to do something about the fade.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Vee Dub Nut's 74 Bay Transporter (& Subaru EJ25 Swap) Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, I will wait and see but the future looks bright with Lanner engineering it Smile
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