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2002 T4MV DTC 16825 P0441 (EVAP Purge flow incorrect, new valve)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:06 am    Post subject: 2002 T4MV DTC 16825 P0441 (EVAP Purge flow incorrect, new valve) Reply with quote

Popped this code today and inspected purge valve hoses and canister, NPF.

Turns out the purge valve , part 1C0906517A, is the same one used on my New Beetle convertible , so I'll swap Them and confirm diagnosis.
New Beetle is off road with front clip,off to replace front air bag sensors

It's a good thing we have so many VWs.....

SWMBO Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: 2002 T4MV DTC 16825 P0441 Reply with quote

Haha, I'll bet that without a wife, you'd probably amass a hoarder-worthy collection of VWs. Wink

Hopefully a new evap purge valve does the job. Mine was done at 90k.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: 2002 T4MV DTC 16825 P0441 Reply with quote

I just pulled it off the New Beetle...what a Charlie Foxtrot

Buried under right front fender.

Put it into T4, now I’ll have to put 50 miles or so on it to test
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: 2002 T4MV DTC 16825 P0441 Reply with quote

Well, EVAP monitor went ready in 15 miles, no codes.

Why can't Volvo make an EVAP monitor that goes ready in less than 2000 miles?

Ill will order a new purge valve from FCP
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: 2002 T4MV DTC 16825 P0441 Reply with quote

Faulty N80 Purge valve measured at 24.6 Ohms DC resistance. I have a new one, and will report that value too. It was happily clicking (the T4 ECM drives it at about 8 Hz ) but the error code said something was up. It also holds vacuum when off.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: 2002 T4MV DTC 16825 P0441 Reply with quote

new purge Valve, Bosch N80, made in PRC, measures 25 Ohms

Conclusion - electrical part of this valve is probably not failure mechanism

Im guessing a sticky flap or valve inside is what goes bad. Ill try some solvent on the old one and see if I can get it to work
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: 2002 T4MV DTC 16825 P0441 (EVAP Purge flow incorrect, new valve) Reply with quote

Hello Abscate,
Did cleaning the purge valve fix the problem?

The 2002 Weekender just triggered a P0441 code and is showing trouble starting after filling up the tank (purge valve stuck open?)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: 2002 T4MV DTC 16825 P0441 (EVAP Purge flow incorrect, new valve) Reply with quote

Just purchased a factory new N80 valve part 1C0906517A from the dealer. Cost was reasonable and cheaper than any factory part online (Dorman brand is not factory lol)

Will swap out tonight.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: 2002 T4MV DTC 16825 P0441 (EVAP Purge flow incorrect, new valve) Reply with quote

Cleaning did not , I replaced with new.

Ok, I lied, the Beetle got the new one because I never want to do that job again on that car. The T4 EuroBuss replacement is too simple for Procedure.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: 2002 T4MV DTC 16825 P0441 (EVAP Purge flow incorrect, new valve) Reply with quote

Thanks Abscate,
The N80 Valve was the original part in my weekender and worn out.

Just refuelled the van and no more difficult restart after refilling due to a stuck valve. Check engine light was cleared and stayed off as well

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