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Davydomes
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 Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:00 am Post subject: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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There's an article in this month VW Camper & Bus about a company who are now looking to supply the above. They use Teslar batteries located where the petrol/gas tank would be. The price? An eye watering £25k to £30k GBP ($34,850 to $41,800 USD) 
No - that doesn't include the Bus, just the conversion.
Think I'll wait a while on that one. 
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MorkC68
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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Here are the guys that do it
https://www.braziliankampers.co.uk/electric-campervan/
they used to do some really nice restorations on 68 to 79 bays but have moved towards the Brazi bays
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KentABQ 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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Electric conversions can be Skills' next VW endeavor. 
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ivwshane
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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For that kind of money I could buy a rabey motor and get longer range. An electric motor kit runs about $7k and a Tesla battery runs about $12k, why is there so much mark up?
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Manfred58sc
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:38 am Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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The future has arrived
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ivwshane
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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I just noticed this link. Thank you!!!!
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jtauxe
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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| ivwshane wrote: |
| For that kind of money I could buy a rabey motor and get longer range. |
In the UK they don't need much range. 
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Davydomes
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:56 am Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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That's the company!
A 52kw motor is bolted to an adaptor plate that goes on the stock gear box.
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Davydomes
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:06 am Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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| jtauxe wrote: |
| ivwshane wrote: |
| For that kind of money I could buy a rabey motor and get longer range. |
In the UK they don't need much range. |
No strictly true, but compared to USA the distances are tiny.
It is said we Brits are never more than approx. 75 miles from the coast. So I guess you could get the coast and back off one charge wherever you live in UK
A lot of T2 owners tour Europe in their Bus. Considering going over to France next year myself 
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alaskadan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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| Davydomes wrote: |
That's the company!
A 52kw motor is bolted to an adaptor plate that goes on the stock gear box. |
That sounds like a good recipe for eating gearboxes. |
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Davydomes
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:47 am Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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| alaskadan wrote: |
| Davydomes wrote: |
That's the company!
A 52kw motor is bolted to an adaptor plate that goes on the stock gear box. |
That sounds like a good recipe for eating gearboxes. |
You may have a point. It states in the write up that you can just leave it in 4th gear and drive from a standing start if you like.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:56 am Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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| Yeah with all that torque and ability to really wind up you could easily over rev it in low gear. What is the top rpm for that electric motor? Could you be taking it to 10k rpm in 1st or 2nd without even trying? How would your gear box hold up to that? |
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Zeen
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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| Davydomes wrote: |
| jtauxe wrote: |
| ivwshane wrote: |
| For that kind of money I could buy a rabey motor and get longer range. |
In the UK they don't need much range. |
No strictly true, but compared to USA the distances are tiny.
It is said we Brits are never more than approx. 75 miles from the coast. So I guess you could get the coast and back off one charge wherever you live in UK
A lot of T2 owners tour Europe in their Bus. Considering going over to France next year myself |
My first thought was EVs are made for commuting, and are a poor fit for a camper. But commercial campgrounds usually have high-amp electric hook-ups, so you could bring a portable charger and fill-up while you're parked. They probably use the 80Kwh battery, which would give you plenty of juice when you do go off the grid. I have a Chevy Volt, and there is nothing like that quiet, effortless torque. It would be nice to be silent when you are in the woods, and the torque would be great off-road. But oy, the price.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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| Zeen wrote: |
| Davydomes wrote: |
| jtauxe wrote: |
| ivwshane wrote: |
| For that kind of money I could buy a rabey motor and get longer range. |
In the UK they don't need much range. |
No strictly true, but compared to USA the distances are tiny.
It is said we Brits are never more than approx. 75 miles from the coast. So I guess you could get the coast and back off one charge wherever you live in UK
A lot of T2 owners tour Europe in their Bus. Considering going over to France next year myself |
My first thought was EVs are made for commuting, and are a poor fit for a camper. But commercial campgrounds usually have high-amp electric hook-ups, so you could bring a portable charger and fill-up while you're parked. They probably use the 80Kwh battery, which would give you plenty of juice when you do go off the grid. I have a Chevy Volt, and there is nothing like that quiet, effortless torque. It would be nice to be silent when you are in the woods, and the torque would be great off-road. But oy, the price. |
Volt as the daily here too. Love it. I've got an 11 inch DC electric forklift motor sitting in the garage, which was meant for the 72 Super I picked up last year. I was searching for salvage Volt battery packs (you can get 16kw pack from a wrecked Volt for $1,500 US) when I stumbled on my used Volt at a really good price so that was that - EV ready to go! I rebuilt an aircooled motor for the Super. Still think a conversion of something is in the future for that DC motor.
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mikedjames
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:45 am Post subject: Re: UK company supplying Electric Motor Conversions |
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The article in the Camper and Bus magazine which presented this conversion, said that the initial use case for this bus was when the owner of the company was approached by a hotel to provide an electric shuttle bus.
There it makes a lot of sense - the Heathrow Airport is inside a low emission zone, where older vehicles and even bigger (but small by US standard) modern RVs based on delivery vans have to pay to enter (while the 40+ year old aircooled VW bus is free because we no longer have to pay annual road tax..)
As I just drove 185 miles the other day to the Dubfreeze show here in the UK, and the same again on the way back and the only electrical supply at the campsite was a locked 16 amp/240V electrical hookup point 50 yards away, it would have taken a long time for my 200 watt solar cells to recharge for the trip home.
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