Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
walk thru seat prep
Forum Index -> Split Bus Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
obus Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: March 08, 2001
Posts: 11070
Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
obus is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:52 pm    Post subject: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

Now that the old covers are off what is the best way to prep these for the new covers? Do i wire brush gently and then primer and spray paint or????? Also a spring or 2 were broken but they are the skinny ones not the larger ones. Do i just take the 2 off and not worry or ???
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


P.S. do i need to worry about these holes and what the heck are they?
pass side
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
July 1959 Mango Standard Bus aka Obus L346 L347 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=256592&highlight=
June 1973 Pumpkin Orange Thing aka Othing L30H
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=711775&highlight=
1960 Paprika Red Karmann Ghia Convertible aka Schatze L452 built 5/20/60
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=
66 21 window bus built 8/31/65 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=777273
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Facebook Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
busdaddy
Samba Member


Joined: February 12, 2004
Posts: 51149
Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
busdaddy is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

If you don't replace the springs you'll never achieve the perfect ass nirvana VW engineered them to do, maybe you have grown accustomed to that soft spot and it won't matter, it's up to you, I always find a seat with all it's springs more comfy even though it wasn't bad before. And how many other springs are close to letting go?, clean them up and inspect. Old couches are often good donors for springs like that if you can't get your hands on a donor bus seat.

A media blast and powder coat is the best way to refinish the frames/springs, a wire brush and maybe pressure wash followed by a liberal coat of Rustoleum would be a close second, maybe even some sort of acid to remove the rust?
_________________
Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.

Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!

Слава Україні!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
hitest
Samba Member


Joined: September 30, 2008
Posts: 10296
Location: Prime Meridian, ID
hitest is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

You might make yourself insane, but... I had a regular plastic bristle car scrubbing brush in one hand and an air blower chuck in the other and went for it. I have scrubbed every piece of the smallest fur off all the seat frames of two beetles, a 13w bus, and a my camper this way. A shop vac might substitute well if you would rather suck than blow.

I don't know what that blurry hole picture represents. If it's a PO's idea of a seat belt mount they are sorely mistaken. Is the driver's side of the pass seat missing its welded pivot tab? Again, too fuzzy with your cell phone.

The gate latch behind the seat back better be off there before you finish reading this. Cool
_________________
EverettB wrote:

I wonder what the nut looks like.



'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181

FU#5
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
obus Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: March 08, 2001
Posts: 11070
Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
obus is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

Laughing that gate latch was there when i got it and probably was put on by the 1st owner. if i take that off then i have holes in the pass side bulkhead panel. I don't know which is worse?! Yes there are holes cut for seat belts and the such. the blurry one i put a piece of packing tape over it just to keep any bugs,etc out. It is the ovalish one on the passenger side that i am wondering what it is?
_________________
July 1959 Mango Standard Bus aka Obus L346 L347 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=256592&highlight=
June 1973 Pumpkin Orange Thing aka Othing L30H
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=711775&highlight=
1960 Paprika Red Karmann Ghia Convertible aka Schatze L452 built 5/20/60
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=
66 21 window bus built 8/31/65 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=777273
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Facebook Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
easy e
Samba Member


Joined: May 28, 2008
Posts: 3931
Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
easy e is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

My ‘58 has an oblong hole. You can see it right by the termination of the bulkhead wing.
Matt Miller did my seats. He used cotton over burlap.

Here’s a shot of the passenger side with the seat back laying on the bottom cushion.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
aka: Evan
Spreadsheet for Bus RPM, based on gearing & tire size (Excel format)
Searchable, click-navigable 1958 Bus Parts List
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
obus Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: March 08, 2001
Posts: 11070
Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
obus is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

Thanks easy e. you answered another question. Lenny said that i don't need the coco stuff just foam i think 1 inch worth. I don't know. i saved 3 of the 4 padding parts that i had so not sure.... i wonder what that oblong hole is for?
_________________
July 1959 Mango Standard Bus aka Obus L346 L347 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=256592&highlight=
June 1973 Pumpkin Orange Thing aka Othing L30H
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=711775&highlight=
1960 Paprika Red Karmann Ghia Convertible aka Schatze L452 built 5/20/60
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=
66 21 window bus built 8/31/65 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=777273


Last edited by obus on Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:30 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Facebook Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
EverettB Premium Member
Administrator


Joined: April 11, 2000
Posts: 69824
Location: Phoenix Metro
EverettB is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

The oblong hole is just a production thing - that's how the metal base was made.

I wouldn't want to re-use the coco pads, I think they will fall apart or are already thin from age and wear.

Did your passenger side backrest have a coco pad?
Later Buses only have stuffing for the passenger side backrest - no pad.
_________________
How to Post Photos
Everett Barnes - [email protected] | My wanted ads
"Water is the only drink for a wise man" | "Communication prevents complaints"
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Facebook Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
hitest
Samba Member


Joined: September 30, 2008
Posts: 10296
Location: Prime Meridian, ID
hitest is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

I don't know when paint code decals came into use- but if I had the holes of that latch with which to deal- it's what I'd do. Or maybe a maintenance sticker from an esso station Cool

It is strange about the passenger side seat back and lack of hair padding. The seat back is fully covered in the later models (my '66)- are they for the early ones as well? Perhaps there's an upholstering production technique that coincided?
_________________
EverettB wrote:

I wonder what the nut looks like.



'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181

FU#5
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
obus Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: March 08, 2001
Posts: 11070
Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
obus is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

i meant padding i think ?

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
July 1959 Mango Standard Bus aka Obus L346 L347 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=256592&highlight=
June 1973 Pumpkin Orange Thing aka Othing L30H
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=711775&highlight=
1960 Paprika Red Karmann Ghia Convertible aka Schatze L452 built 5/20/60
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=
66 21 window bus built 8/31/65 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=777273


Last edited by obus on Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:40 pm; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Facebook Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Malokin Martin
Samba Member


Joined: August 19, 2007
Posts: 3100
Location: E-burg
Malokin Martin is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

Blast and powder coat. That way it’s done for the life of the vehicle.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
obus Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: March 08, 2001
Posts: 11070
Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
obus is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

Malokin Martin wrote:
Blast and powder coat. That way it’s done for the life of the vehicle.


i almost feel like it would be overkill though?!
_________________
July 1959 Mango Standard Bus aka Obus L346 L347 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=256592&highlight=
June 1973 Pumpkin Orange Thing aka Othing L30H
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=711775&highlight=
1960 Paprika Red Karmann Ghia Convertible aka Schatze L452 built 5/20/60
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=
66 21 window bus built 8/31/65 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=777273
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Facebook Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Douglas Denlinger
Samba Member


Joined: May 23, 2003
Posts: 1382
Location: Arizona's version of the east coast
Douglas Denlinger is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

Weld the spring if you don't have a replacement....I do it all the time.

Then sand blast, check all springs....to make sure no more broke during blasting, powder coat.
_________________
Transporter Restorations
Upholstery Haus

Active 23 Window Samba Collector/Restorer,since 1986
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
obus Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: March 08, 2001
Posts: 11070
Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
obus is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

Thanks Doug, I know you have redone quite a few buses over the years

It is the skinny springs. 2 to be exact that i noticed. One poked through the old cover remnants and was poking my fat ass and ruining shorts and pants along the way. i circled the spring type and the area.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
July 1959 Mango Standard Bus aka Obus L346 L347 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=256592&highlight=
June 1973 Pumpkin Orange Thing aka Othing L30H
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=711775&highlight=
1960 Paprika Red Karmann Ghia Convertible aka Schatze L452 built 5/20/60
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=
66 21 window bus built 8/31/65 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=777273
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Facebook Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
BarryL Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: November 01, 2004
Posts: 14269
Location: Casa de Oro, California
BarryL is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

You can get brass tubing from hobby supply places and slide a pre-bent 2" curve around the two broken spring halves then crimp into the brass with dikes to hold.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
zuggbug
Samba Member


Joined: June 17, 2008
Posts: 3479
Location: Anderson SC
zuggbug is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

they are very simple to replace. i would try to find some from another seat and replace them. I have done several spring replacements on middle and rear seats.

send me the size of the springs, I might have a few that will work.
_________________
SOUTHERN INTEGRITY AIRCOOLERS
58 15 window
56 westy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
BarryL Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: November 01, 2004
Posts: 14269
Location: Casa de Oro, California
BarryL is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

obus wrote:
P.S. do i need to worry about these holes and what the heck are they?
pass side
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

easy e wrote:
My ‘58 has an oblong hole. You can see it right by the termination of the bulkhead wing.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

I always assumed the oblong hole was access to nutting and wrenching a seatbelt attachment point. Early year might negate this theory as I don't know how far back you could even get them. Later years the nut was preattached so access wasn't really necessary.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
obus Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: March 08, 2001
Posts: 11070
Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
obus is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:58 am    Post subject: Re: walk thru seat prep Reply with quote

Thanks zuggbug and BarryL. Cleaned them up, hit them with primer and paint and now at the upholstery shop. Hit a little snag with the one seat cover but it is being corrected and hoping they are back in the bus before April
_________________
July 1959 Mango Standard Bus aka Obus L346 L347 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=256592&highlight=
June 1973 Pumpkin Orange Thing aka Othing L30H
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=711775&highlight=
1960 Paprika Red Karmann Ghia Convertible aka Schatze L452 built 5/20/60
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=
66 21 window bus built 8/31/65 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=777273
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Facebook Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Split Bus All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2023, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.