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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:40 pm    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

I ordered this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1850107297
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

cancel that order and buy the Bentley manual
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

mojan_n wrote:
I ordered this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1850107297



I use this manual and the Bentley. Some directions seem clearer in one and some don't. I have gone back and forth between the two.

I also have others, they all have their purpose.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

kman wrote:
cancel that order and buy the Bentley manual


Do you mean this one?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0837616468/ref=pd_a...QFZQ626KM0

Or

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0837616239/ref=tmm_...d=&sr=
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:06 am    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

Hi! I recently bought a 65KG. I'd say wait until you buy the car to buy the right Bentley book for your year.

As far as choosing a year, I like the look the of the 60's KGs over the look of the later or earlier KGs. If there was a choice, I would get a later 68-69KG for the combination of larger engine, ball joint front (vs. link pin set up), standard front disc brakes, and IRS rear set up, while still retaining the older style front turn signals and rear tail lights (personal choice this). But, I do prefer the older style light colored dash switches (which were only on the cars till 66).

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

same for me Byas.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

I also would recommend waiting until after you get your Ghia to buy a repair manual so you can get the right one for your Ghia. As far as the manuals themselves, I have both the Bentley and Haynes for my Ghia and both for my '72 Campmobile. They are each very good manuals but each one goes through repair procedures a bit differently. Sometimes I follow Bentley, sometimes I follow Haynes.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

What you guys think about this one if I want to buy it?

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/d/restored-1972-vw-karmann-ghia/6491635846.html
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

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What you guys think about this one if I want to buy it?

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/d/restored-1972-vw-karmann-ghia/6491635846.html


He has $12k invested and didn't get the dome light or the turn signals to operate correctly?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

It looks like a quality car with some quality custom work. "restored" traditionaly meant ...to original. That is stock looking with custom features. If looking for originality, this isn't it.
What do you want?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
It looks like a quality car with some quality custom work. "restored" traditionaly meant ...to original. That is stock looking with custom features. If looking for originality, this isn't it.
What do you want?


Have you looked at sites other than Craig's List?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

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c21darrel wrote:
It looks like a quality car with some quality custom work. "restored" traditionaly meant ...to original. That is stock looking with custom features. If looking for originality, this isn't it.
What do you want?


Have you looked at sites other than Craig's List?

Hey, I bought my peach off craigslist. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

mojan_n wrote:
What you guys think about this one if I want to buy it?

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/d/restored-1972-vw-karmann-ghia/6491635846.html


If you've got the coin, that looks like a nice car.

Not a restoration as mentioned but a nice job none-the-less.

Just be sure the rockers are solid and not full of putty, I doubt they are but check.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
mnwesty wrote:
c21darrel wrote:
It looks like a quality car with some quality custom work. "restored" traditionaly meant ...to original. That is stock looking with custom features. If looking for originality, this isn't it.
What do you want?


Have you looked at sites other than Craig's List?

Hey, I bought my peach off craigslist. Embarassed
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/848269.jpg


I found mine here on The Samba.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

mnwesty wrote:
c21darrel wrote:
mnwesty wrote:
c21darrel wrote:
It looks like a quality car with some quality custom work. "restored" traditionaly meant ...to original. That is stock looking with custom features. If looking for originality, this isn't it.
What do you want?


Have you looked at sites other than Craig's List?

Hey, I bought my peach off craigslist. Embarassed
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/848269.jpg


I found mine here on The Samba.


It doesn't matter where you buy...as long as you do your homework and get an experienced Ghia person to examine it. Either someone here will volunteer to assist you or you can pay a Ghia specialist to examine it. The more you're prepared to pay for the car the more you should spend on having it examined. MyGhia was advertised on Craigslist and I got a top expert to check it out. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

John Moxon wrote:
mnwesty wrote:
c21darrel wrote:
mnwesty wrote:
c21darrel wrote:
It looks like a quality car with some quality custom work. "restored" traditionaly meant ...to original. That is stock looking with custom features. If looking for originality, this isn't it.
What do you want?


Have you looked at sites other than Craig's List?

Hey, I bought my peach off craigslist. Embarassed
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/848269.jpg


I found mine here on The Samba.


It doesn't matter where you buy...as long as you do your homework and get an experienced Ghia person to examine it. Either someone here will volunteer to assist you or you can pay a Ghia specialist to examine it. The more you're prepared to pay for the car the more you should spend on having it examined. MyGhia was advertised on Craigslist and I got a top expert to check it out. Smile


It's true that it doesn't matter where you buy from, I was suggesting looking in other avenues to determine what more is available than just Craig's List. Sometimes the best deal is there, and sometimes not.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

mojan_n wrote:
If I want to buy a book to get more info about Ghia and include repair manual what you suggest?


This is a good book about Karmann Ghia's: https://www.amazon.com/Volkswagen-Karmann-Ghias-Ca...5KF29A6N8W

The 1972 and the blue 1968 both look great to me - 1968 is a good year because you get the later brakes, suspension and engine but it still has the small tail lights, but the 1972 is half the price of the other one.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

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Not a restoration as mentioned but a nice job none-the-less


So a body off bare metal respray with all new rubbers and reupholstered interior is not a restoration?
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Mellow Yellow 74 wrote:
djkeev wrote:
Not a restoration as mentioned but a nice job none-the-less


So a body off bare metal respray with all new rubbers and reupholstered interior is not a restoration?


To me, if it's not back to stock condition it's not a restoration. Anything else is a restomod or custom.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: New member need some help and info Reply with quote

mnwesty wrote:
Mellow Yellow 74 wrote:
djkeev wrote:
Not a restoration as mentioned but a nice job none-the-less


So a body off bare metal respray with all new rubbers and reupholstered interior is not a restoration?


To me, if it's not back to stock condition it's not a restoration. Anything else is a restomod or custom.


I get it but I have a problem with definitions. What exactly is meant by "stock"?

Original paint?
Original carpets?
Original everything down to the last screw, nail and bolt?

There are too many perishable items in our cars for which original replacements are unavailable.

It seems to me that the best we can hope for is for our Ghias to be in near-original condition after a reconditioning, and as with most human endeavours, that is as near perfection as we shall ever get. That is to say, if "stock" is our aim.
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