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Howie78 Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2014 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:39 am Post subject: Late bay bumper weight? |
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I’m looking to find out the weight of an original late bay (1976) front bumper.
Can anyone help my out please ? |
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BUSBOSS Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 2161 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Just the bumper blade? With the brackets?
And perhaps the most important question, why? _________________ All the redemption I can offer, girl, is beneath this dirty hood
1976 Westfalia
1970 Karmann Ghia Convertible (sold - but not forgotten) |
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Howie78 Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2014 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Just the bumper blade.
There are no brackets on the front bumper as it bolts straight to the body of the bus.
My bumper is rusted and full of dents and I’m in need of a new but don’t want to buy a cheap reproduction which is made from thinner steel |
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BUSBOSS Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 2161 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Howie78 wrote: |
Just the bumper blade.
There are no brackets on the front bumper as it bolts straight to the body of the bus.
My bumper is rusted and full of dents and I’m in need of a new but don’t want to buy a cheap reproduction which is made from thinner steel |
Sorry - didn't read carefully enough to see the reference to front bumper. Where are you located? _________________ All the redemption I can offer, girl, is beneath this dirty hood
1976 Westfalia
1970 Karmann Ghia Convertible (sold - but not forgotten) |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16801 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Howie78 wrote: |
Just the bumper blade.
There are no brackets on the front bumper as it bolts straight to the body of the bus.
My bumper is rusted and full of dents and I’m in need of a new but don’t want to buy a cheap reproduction which is made from thinner steel |
so, why not throw yours on a scale...it will be close enough....
holy shit....... _________________
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13382 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
Howie78 wrote: |
Just the bumper blade.
There are no brackets on the front bumper as it bolts straight to the body of the bus.
My bumper is rusted and full of dents and I’m in need of a new but don’t want to buy a cheap reproduction which is made from thinner steel |
so, why not throw yours on a scale...it will be close enough....
holy shit....... |
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Howie78 Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2014 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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I’m in Australia and have thrown it on the scale (constructive feedback skills@eurocarsplus)
It’s 5.6kg but I don’t know if it’s original so looking for someone to give some info I can compare to new bumpers
Hence the question.... |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50255
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Howie78 wrote: |
I’m in Australia and have thrown it on the scale (constructive feedback skills@eurocarsplus)
It’s 5.6kg but I don’t know if it’s original so looking for someone to give some info I can compare to new bumpers
Hence the question.... |
How about just asking what the thickness of the steel is. Much easier to get out a pair of calipers and take the calipers to the bumper, than to remove the bumper and take it to the scales. |
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Howie78 Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2014 Posts: 18
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:58 am Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Because I didn’t want to know the thickness of the steel?
If I did, I’d ask |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50255
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:44 am Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Howie78 wrote: |
Because I didn’t want to know the thickness of the steel?
If I did, I’d ask |
The thickness of the metal and the weight of the metal are going to correspond proportionally. Geez |
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5778 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Howie78 wrote: |
Because I didn’t want to know the thickness of the steel?
If I did, I’d ask |
But, really, aren't you more interested in the thickness, which corresponds to strength, than the weight? I could actually see asking for weight, if someone has provided the weight of an aftermarket bumper, so you can compare.
Not to be pedantic (OK, I'm pedantic), 5.6 kg is not a weight -- it's a mass. Weight would be in pounds or newtons.
I also am looking for original, beefier, bumpers. The aftermarket ones, as you point out, are pretty thin. Good originals are hard to find... _________________ John
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hazetguy Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2001 Posts: 10773 Location: iT StiNgeD iTseLf tO dEAd
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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does it "really" matter? the 73-79 front bumpers are mostly cosmetic. the real crash protection is built into the body/frame. _________________ thebucket: I invested in hoodride, now DBD won't return my call?
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Howie78 Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2014 Posts: 18
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Do people get on this forum to be helpful ?
Or to ask stupid questions and argue?
Not one bit of helpful feedback yet......
If you don’t have nothing good to say
Please don’t reply
Go and argue with a mirror instead |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50255
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Howie78 wrote: |
Do people get on this forum to be helpful ?
Or to ask stupid questions and argue?
Not one bit of helpful feedback yet......
If you don’t have nothing good to say
Please don’t reply
Go and argue with a mirror instead |
The stock late bumper is approximately 0.075" thick.
If you want to know the strength of the bumper, you need to know the thickness of the steel and its strength, the weight doesn't enter into the equation. A chintzy bumper with half the strength of the original may well weight exactly the same.
Your are welcome |
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Howie78 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Thank you
I’d also need to know which kind of steel or material it’s made of to know the strength
It could be half the thickness but stronger than the original depending on the material used
I’m not that pedantic
Weight is fine but thanks for the thickness |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16801 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Howie78 wrote: |
Do people get on this forum to be helpful ?
Or to ask stupid questions and argue?
Not one bit of helpful feedback yet......
If you don’t have nothing good to say
Please don’t reply
Go and argue with a mirror instead |
what you're asking is so off the wall and ridiculous it is funny....I mean, you're asking someone to either take a bumper off the car or out of storage and weigh it...the only person on the planet that "needs" this info is you....or alex trebek
honestly, unless you buy a new bumper, 99.9% of the used ones will be OEM. there was never a huge aftermarket for this stuff even back in the day.
I have been to the concourse d'elegance and never heard a judge ask the weight of a bumper on a real car.... _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Howie78 Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2014 Posts: 18
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Another valuable response.....
I didn’t realise we were allowed to ask questions on here , silly me |
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alman72 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2014 Posts: 2573 Location: MICHIGAN
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Not to be pedantic (OK, I'm pedantic), 5.6 kg is not a weight -- it's a mass. Weight would be in pounds or newtons.
Kg' are perfectly cromulent for converting into lbs. 12.3459 lbs |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7596
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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Howie78 wrote: |
I’m in Australia and have thrown it on the scale (constructive feedback skills@eurocarsplus)
It’s 5.6kg but I don’t know if it’s original so looking for someone to give some info I can compare to new bumpers
Hence the question.... |
I'm going out on limb here. I'm thinking the weight of an OEM bumper is 12.3459 lbs. The others are junk _________________ Keep on Busin'
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I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
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My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Bendejo Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2012 Posts: 122 Location: Denver
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? |
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My bumper with a fresh coat of paint is 11.7 lbs on my NIST calibrated bathroom scale.
Pretty silly question, but there's your answer |
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