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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:39 am    Post subject: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

I’m looking to find out the weight of an original late bay (1976) front bumper.
Can anyone help my out please ?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Just the bumper blade? With the brackets?

And perhaps the most important question, why?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Just the bumper blade.
There are no brackets on the front bumper as it bolts straight to the body of the bus.

My bumper is rusted and full of dents and I’m in need of a new but don’t want to buy a cheap reproduction which is made from thinner steel Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Howie78 wrote:
Just the bumper blade.
There are no brackets on the front bumper as it bolts straight to the body of the bus.

My bumper is rusted and full of dents and I’m in need of a new but don’t want to buy a cheap reproduction which is made from thinner steel Wink


Sorry - didn't read carefully enough to see the reference to front bumper. Where are you located?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Howie78 wrote:
Just the bumper blade.
There are no brackets on the front bumper as it bolts straight to the body of the bus.

My bumper is rusted and full of dents and I’m in need of a new but don’t want to buy a cheap reproduction which is made from thinner steel Wink


so, why not throw yours on a scale...it will be close enough....


holy shit.......
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
Howie78 wrote:
Just the bumper blade.
There are no brackets on the front bumper as it bolts straight to the body of the bus.

My bumper is rusted and full of dents and I’m in need of a new but don’t want to buy a cheap reproduction which is made from thinner steel Wink


so, why not throw yours on a scale...it will be close enough....


holy shit.......


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

I’m in Australia and have thrown it on the scale (constructive feedback skills@eurocarsplus)
It’s 5.6kg but I don’t know if it’s original so looking for someone to give some info I can compare to new bumpers
Hence the question....
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Howie78 wrote:
I’m in Australia and have thrown it on the scale (constructive feedback skills@eurocarsplus)
It’s 5.6kg but I don’t know if it’s original so looking for someone to give some info I can compare to new bumpers
Hence the question....


How about just asking what the thickness of the steel is. Much easier to get out a pair of calipers and take the calipers to the bumper, than to remove the bumper and take it to the scales.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:58 am    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Because I didn’t want to know the thickness of the steel?
If I did, I’d ask
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:44 am    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Howie78 wrote:
Because I didn’t want to know the thickness of the steel?
If I did, I’d ask


The thickness of the metal and the weight of the metal are going to correspond proportionally. Geez
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Howie78 wrote:
Because I didn’t want to know the thickness of the steel?
If I did, I’d ask


But, really, aren't you more interested in the thickness, which corresponds to strength, than the weight? I could actually see asking for weight, if someone has provided the weight of an aftermarket bumper, so you can compare.

Not to be pedantic (OK, I'm pedantic), 5.6 kg is not a weight -- it's a mass. Weight would be in pounds or newtons.

I also am looking for original, beefier, bumpers. The aftermarket ones, as you point out, are pretty thin. Good originals are hard to find...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

does it "really" matter? the 73-79 front bumpers are mostly cosmetic. the real crash protection is built into the body/frame.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Do people get on this forum to be helpful ?
Or to ask stupid questions and argue?
Not one bit of helpful feedback yet......

If you don’t have nothing good to say
Please don’t reply
Go and argue with a mirror instead
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Howie78 wrote:
Do people get on this forum to be helpful ?
Or to ask stupid questions and argue?
Not one bit of helpful feedback yet......

If you don’t have nothing good to say
Please don’t reply
Go and argue with a mirror instead


The stock late bumper is approximately 0.075" thick.

If you want to know the strength of the bumper, you need to know the thickness of the steel and its strength, the weight doesn't enter into the equation. A chintzy bumper with half the strength of the original may well weight exactly the same.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Thank you
I’d also need to know which kind of steel or material it’s made of to know the strength
It could be half the thickness but stronger than the original depending on the material used

I’m not that pedantic
Weight is fine but thanks for the thickness Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Howie78 wrote:
Do people get on this forum to be helpful ?
Or to ask stupid questions and argue?
Not one bit of helpful feedback yet......

If you don’t have nothing good to say
Please don’t reply
Go and argue with a mirror instead


what you're asking is so off the wall and ridiculous it is funny....I mean, you're asking someone to either take a bumper off the car or out of storage and weigh it...the only person on the planet that "needs" this info is you....or alex trebek

honestly, unless you buy a new bumper, 99.9% of the used ones will be OEM. there was never a huge aftermarket for this stuff even back in the day.

I have been to the concourse d'elegance and never heard a judge ask the weight of a bumper on a real car....
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Another valuable response.....

I didn’t realise we were allowed to ask questions on here , silly me
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Not to be pedantic (OK, I'm pedantic), 5.6 kg is not a weight -- it's a mass. Weight would be in pounds or newtons.


Kg' are perfectly cromulent for converting into lbs. 12.3459 lbs
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

Howie78 wrote:
I’m in Australia and have thrown it on the scale (constructive feedback skills@eurocarsplus)
It’s 5.6kg but I don’t know if it’s original so looking for someone to give some info I can compare to new bumpers
Hence the question....


I'm going out on limb here. I'm thinking the weight of an OEM bumper is 12.3459 lbs. The others are junk Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Late bay bumper weight? Reply with quote

My bumper with a fresh coat of paint is 11.7 lbs on my NIST calibrated bathroom scale. Laughing

Pretty silly question, but there's your answer
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